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Re: Why the King James Version is Superior...
[Re: Daryl]
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My clock analogy seems to have been an epic fail. I should have posted only this portion, as it suffices (I think) to summarize what I was trying to say. If Benjamin had but two watches on his wrist, both of which differed from the other, would he have any way of knowing which of the two were more accurate? Of course not. But suppose Benjamin had three watches on his person, two of which agreed while the third differed...which time would he trust? Would he not trust the two which showed the same time?
Now, in the case that there are 20 clocks, and only one is different while 19 all show the identical same time--which time would a wise person trust?
That is exactly the situation with the Bible manuscripts. The "Majority Text" is a subset of all known copies of the Bible manuscripts comprising about 95% of them. Only 1 in 20 manuscripts differs, and is part of the Alexandrian text, or "Neutral Text" as it was christened by Westcott and Hort--after they had edited and revised the original copies. Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Why the King James Version is Superior...
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I will  this topic as it relates to some others currently under discussion. Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Why the King James Version is Superior...
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I would be more general and say I know of none of your analogies which are not epic failures.  You're still insisting more is better. The majority of North Americans are obese. Does that mean obesity is the correct weight? precision != accuracy
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Re: Why the King James Version is Superior...
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I notice you said that the text was 'edited and revised'. Why?
To make it more 'neutral'? Or more to their liking?
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Re: Why the King James Version is Superior...
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That is a very important fact. However, if we are talking about clocks or wallpaper, I would put greater weight on the "majority vote." But in matters of theology, the majority has no vote; only God's vote counts. Our job is to find out what that is, and it is often found in the minority opinion.
By God's grace,
Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Why the King James Version is Superior...
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Are we calling scriptures or their manuscripts "opinion?"
I agree in terms of human interpretations that the majority is usually wrong. However, we are not talking here about interpretations. We are talking about manuscripts.
Blessings,
Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Why the King James Version is Superior...
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So why don't we go with the correct interpretation rather than with the majority vote then?
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Re: Why the King James Version is Superior...
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Are we calling scriptures or their manuscripts "opinion?"
I agree in terms of human interpretations that the majority is usually wrong. However, we are not talking here about interpretations. We are talking about manuscripts. Isn't one of the main arguments the idea that Westcott and Hort inserted their own opinions in their manuscripts? The crux of the disagreement is that one man's manuscript is another man's opinion. How do you determine which is which? It cannot simply be by majority vote.
By God's grace,
Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Why the King James Version is Superior...
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The Vaudois didn't have Westcott and Hort. They didn't have the Douay-Rheims. They had the "uncorrupted" truth. Their Bible was of the same lineage as the manuscripts of the Majority Text.
Mrs. White affirmed the lineage of the Waldensian Bible. We have inspiration to go on, not mere opinion or majority vote.
Blessings,
Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Why the King James Version is Superior...
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Mrs. White affirmed the lineage of the Waldensian Bible. We have inspiration to go on, not mere opinion or majority vote.
And another one. Is the "uncorrupted" truth referring to a specific Bible version or is it referring to uncorrupted truth? How many versions did they have at that time? You waffle with "same lineage". If "uncorrupted" means a specific Bible they are using, you should only use it as they used it and not have any of the "corrupted" English words in it.
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