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Re: The Serpent and the Seed (sermon by Arnold Sy Go)
[Re: asygo]
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11/09/08 07:34 PM
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The new thing I learned while studying for this sermon is that God had to come down to show that God is love. Any other way would not have addressed the underlying problem. What about the fact if A&E had not sinned God could have ended the GC favorably without Jesus having to die on the cross?
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Re: The Serpent and the Seed (sermon by Arnold Sy Go)
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Arnold, I didn't see an old, fat guy in the youth group photo. Instead, I saw a fit, handsome, middle-aged man wearing a blue fleece and jeans. Was that you in the process of judo-chopping a six pack of water bottles (or whatever that blue thing is)?
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Re: The Serpent and the Seed (sermon by Arnold Sy Go)
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Arnold, I didn't see an old, fat guy in the youth group photo. Instead, I saw a fit, handsome, middle-aged man wearing a blue fleece and jeans. Was that you in the process of judo-chopping a six pack of water bottles (or whatever that blue thing is)? Yeah, that was me. That wasn't water, it's the Guesstures box. Fit and handsome... I'll tell my wife that news.
By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: The Serpent and the Seed (sermon by Arnold Sy Go)
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The new thing I learned while studying for this sermon is that God had to come down to show that God is love. Any other way would not have addressed the underlying problem. What about the fact if A&E had not sinned God could have ended the GC favorably without Jesus having to die on the cross? The point was that ONLY God can do the job; no other being is qualified to show that God is love. But if A&E did not sin, then He wouldn't have needed to come here. However, he still needed to manifest His love, somewhere, somehow. Exactly where and how, I don't know. The love and justice of God, and also the immutability of His law, are made manifest by the Saviour's life, no less than by His death. {3SM 132.4}
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By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: The Serpent and the Seed (sermon by Arnold Sy Go)
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11/10/08 03:47 PM
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The point was the ONLY God can do the job; no other being is qualified to show that God is love. But if A&E did not sin, then He wouldn't have needed to come here. However, he still needed to manifest His love, somewhere, somehow. Exactly where and how, I don't know. Amen!
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Re: The Serpent and the Seed (sermon by Arnold Sy Go)
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11/10/08 03:48 PM
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Guesstures Box? What is that? Please, don't keep me guessturing. Ha!
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Re: The Serpent and the Seed (sermon by Arnold Sy Go)
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By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: The Serpent and the Seed (sermon by Arnold Sy Go)
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11/10/08 05:42 PM
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The point was the ONLY God can do the job; no other being is qualified to show that God is love. But if A&E did not sin, then He wouldn't have needed to come here. However, he still needed to manifest His love, somewhere, somehow. Exactly where and how, I don't know. Amen! Here's another quote: The character of God was shown to the world by the obedience and death of the Son of God. {12MR 416.1}
By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: The Serpent and the Seed (sermon by Arnold Sy Go)
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11/10/08 10:54 PM
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I liked the sermon, too. I like sermons which offer practical instruction for the Christian life. And I could understand it easily (it was a little easier to understand than the children's story).
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Re: The Serpent and the Seed (sermon by Arnold Sy Go)
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I want to investigate this idea that I presented in my sermon (actually, just barely touched on it), that faith in God's love for us is THE shield against sin. Know and believe the love that God has to us, and you are secure; that love is a fortress impregnable to all the delusions and assaults of Satan. {MB 119.2}
When the sinner has a view of the matchless charms of Jesus, sin no longer looks attractive to him; for he beholds the Chiefest among ten thousand, the One altogether lovely. {FW 107.1} How comprehensive a solution is it to truly believe God's love for us? How much of the sin problem does it solve? How much of a role do "believing God's word" and "obeying God's command" in the battle over a person's salvation? What do you guys think? As I was studying for this, I thought of making a link between the three-step path into sin - distrust God's love, disbelieve God's word, disobey God's command - and the threefold nature of man - spiritual, intellectual, physical. I think there's something there, but I knew that I did not have time to do it any kind of justice in one sermon, and since I'm not the head pastor, I do not have the luxury of doing a multi-part series on it. So I put it aside. Maybe we can investigate that as well.
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By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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