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Re: Are we born again with uncrucified sinful habits? [Re: Green Cochoa] #111047
04/01/09 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: Green Cochoa
Spanish has verbs in many more "flavors" than does English. Perhaps Hebrew also had more "inflections" than we have conjugations. In any case, the first time I read the commandments in Spanish, my eyes were opened. I only wish I could read the Hebrew, as it may even be better still.
Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


you might enjoy some of the thoughts from this site:
http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/emagazine/index.html


Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?

Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.

Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
Re: Are we born again with uncrucified sinful habits? [Re: teresaq] #111058
04/01/09 12:19 PM
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GC, liked your rocks post.


Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
Re: Are we born again with uncrucified sinful habits? [Re: Tom] #111062
04/01/09 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tom
GC, liked your rocks post.

Me too!


Blessings
Re: Are we born again with uncrucified sinful habits? [Re: Elle] #111063
04/01/09 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tom
GC, liked your rocks post.

Originally Posted By: Elle
Me too!


And yet you were both too polite to request the missing quote. Here it is now, for I had time to find it this evening.

Originally Posted By: Ellen White
The Father and the Son engaged in the mighty, wondrous work they had contemplated, of creating the world. The earth came forth from the hand of the Creator exceedingly beautiful. There were mountains, and hills, and plains; and interspersed among them were rivers and bodies of water. The earth was not one extensive plain, but the monotony of the scenery was broken by hills and mountains, not high and ragged as they now are, but regular and beautiful in shape. The bare, high rocks were never seen upon them, but lay beneath the surface, answering as bones to the earth. The waters were regularly dispersed. The hills, mountains, and very beautiful plains, were adorned with plants and flowers, and tall, majestic trees of every description, which were many times larger, and much more beautiful, than trees now are. The air was pure and healthful, and the earth seemed like a noble palace. Angels beheld and rejoiced at the wonderful and beautiful works of God. {1SP 24.1} [The Spirit of Prophecy Volume One (1870)]


Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Are we born again with uncrucified sinful habits? [Re: Green Cochoa] #111066
04/01/09 02:33 PM
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Green it's more than a "aha", it's totally "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawesome"! Tx for sharing!

Originally Posted By: Ellen White
The Father and the Son engaged in the mighty, wondrous work they had contemplated, of creating the world. The earth came forth from the hand of the Creator exceedingly beautiful. There were mountains, and hills, and plains; and interspersed among them were rivers and bodies of water. The earth was not one extensive plain, but the monotony of the scenery was broken by hills and mountains, not high and ragged as they now are, but regular and beautiful in shape. The bare, high rocks were never seen upon them, but lay beneath the surface, answering as bones to the earth. The waters were regularly dispersed. The hills, mountains, and very beautiful plains, were adorned with plants and flowers, and tall, majestic trees of every description, which were many times larger, and much more beautiful, than trees now are. The air was pure and healthful, and the earth seemed like a noble palace. Angels beheld and rejoiced at the wonderful and beautiful works of God. {1SP 24.1} [The Spirit of Prophecy Volume One (1870)]

Originally Posted By: Green
Our bodies would be useless without bones. The earth's crust would offer no support without rocks. The law is what supports us.

Yet the law is not a focal point of beauty. The beauty is in the love. Both work together. They are one in purpose. Just as our body organs all work together, and join in purpose. But we are not attracted by a view of the inner organs and bones. We are attracted by the outward appearance.

God's law is part of the inward. God's love, mercy, patience, joy, etc. are more attractive parts on the outward.


Blessings
Re: Are we born again with uncrucified sinful habits? [Re: Elle] #111079
04/01/09 05:09 PM
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Elle, if you liked that, you should check out "The Everlasting Covenant" by E. J. Waggoner. It's filled with insights like this. Also "The Gospel in Creation." (same author)


Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
Re: Are we born again with uncrucified sinful habits? [Re: Tom] #111082
04/01/09 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tom
Elle, if you liked that, you should check out "The Everlasting Covenant" by E. J. Waggoner. It's filled with insights like this. Also "The Gospel in Creation." (same author)
Tx. Tom. Great! Waggoner stuff. I'll look for it.


Blessings
Re: Are we born again with uncrucified sinful habits? [Re: Green Cochoa] #111091
04/01/09 07:09 PM
04/01/09 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tom
Regarding "shalt nots," the Sabbath commandment is a "shall."

"Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work. But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work."

BTW, linguistically speaking, what is the difference between "shalt thou" and "thou shalt not" in the commandment above? Why didn't God express all of the commandments in terms of "shalt thou" (you will) instead of "thou shalt not" (you cannot)?

Quote:
Going back to what GC pointed out, "The Ten Commandments, Thou shalt, and Thou shalt not, are ten promises...(FILB 86)".

What recourse in judgment would God have if the commandments didn't prohibit sin? Wouldn't it leave loopholes elephants could walk through?

Re: Are we born again with uncrucified sinful habits? [Re: Green Cochoa] #111092
04/01/09 07:12 PM
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Tom, please address 110909 and 110914. Thank you.

Re: Are we born again with uncrucified sinful habits? [Re: Elle] #111093
04/01/09 07:12 PM
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Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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