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Lesson #8 - Rest #113193
05/16/09 10:36 PM
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Here is the link for this study and discussion topic:

http://ssnet.org/qrtrly/eng/09b/less08nkjv.html


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Lesson #8 - Rest [Re: Daryl] #113195
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I think the Memory Text is a good way to begin this one on the topic of rest.
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"Then he said to them, 'The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath' " (Mark 2:27, 28, NIV).

As the word "rest" isn't used in the Memory Text, how can this text be the main text of this study on rest?


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Re: Lesson #8 - Rest [Re: Daryl] #113227
05/17/09 08:15 AM
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Maybe because there is no difference in spelling between "sabbath" and "rest" in hebrew text lacking masoretic punctuation?


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Lesson #8 - Rest [Re: vastergotland] #113257
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If this is true, then this would give greater strength to the fact that the Sabbath was first given in the Garden of Eden before sin had even entered into this world, rather than being given for the first time at Sinai, which is the stance of many Sunday observing Christians.


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Re: Lesson #8 - Rest [Re: vastergotland] #113334
05/19/09 05:10 AM
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There's no difference between "rest" and "sabbath" in the Hebrews??
How or where is that?

"rest" is "nuwach" in the key texts that talk about the Sabbath and
"sabbath" is "shabbath"

The Hebrew characters are different.



Now in the NEW Testament --
In Hebrews 3-4
There's the rest "katapauō"
but in verse 4:9 it switches and the word "rest" is "sabbatismos"

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Re: Lesson #8 - Rest [Re: dedication] #113344
05/19/09 08:59 AM
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Sh.v.t are the consonants, which are all an unpunctuated text would have.

שבת
שַּׁבָּת
Shevet: sitting quietly, rest

שבת
שָּׁבֶת
Shabbat: Sabbath

The dot in בֶ changes it from "v" to "bb".

Anyhow, its also clear that this particular word is not a oft used word so the point was propably far fetched.

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21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Lesson #8 - Rest [Re: Daryl] #113362
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Originally Posted By: Daryl Fawcett
I think the Memory Text is a good way to begin this one on the topic of rest.
Quote:
"Then he said to them, 'The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath' " (Mark 2:27, 28, NIV).

As the word "rest" isn't used in the Memory Text, how can this text be the main text of this study on rest?


given the title i thought it would have to do with
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Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

and
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Heb 3:7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
Heb 3:8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
Heb 3:9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
Heb 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
Heb 3:11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
Heb 3:15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
Heb 3:16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
Heb 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
Heb 3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
Heb 3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
Heb 4:5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Heb 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Heb 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.


Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?

Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.

Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
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Re: Lesson #8 - Rest [Re: teresaq] #113370
05/19/09 11:04 PM
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Yes, Jesus, as Lord of the Sabbath, does give us His rest.


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Re: Lesson #8 - Rest [Re: dedication] #113378
05/20/09 01:25 AM
05/20/09 01:25 AM
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"rest" is "nuwach" in the key texts that talk about the Sabbath and "sabbath" is "shabbath"

Yes, in some texts, but in others, the verb "to rest" is shabath in Hebrew, like in Gen. 2:2,3; Exo. 16:30; 31:17, etc. Nuwach and shabath are synonyms.

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Re: Lesson #8 - Rest [Re: Rosangela] #113427
05/21/09 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: Teresaq
given the title i thought it would have to do with



Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.


Beautiful text --
The chapter divisions were put in years after the Biblical writers wrote, and it's interesting to see the flow as it continues into the next verses.

Matthew 11.28-30 Matthew 12.1-3

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. ....

At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat. But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day. But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred...How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the showbread...

The invitation in the text above is in the immediate context of two Sabbath episodes (chapter 12). On the Sabbath they ate-- they were hungry and ate some of grains of corn from the field.

Jesus justifies their actions by refering to the temple bread. The connection suggests that Christ the bread of life, is very much part of the Sabbath, and as we come apart to rest with Him on the Sabbath He feeds us with spiritual food.

Jesus continues -- "But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple..... For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day."

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