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Ellen and Medical Studies #107511
01/13/09 07:14 PM
01/13/09 07:14 PM
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crater  Offline OP
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I was just reading an article from npr Gut Reaction: Overeating Can Impair Body Function and came to this paragraph quoted below and in particular the sentences I have highlighted in red.

Quote:
Sending Mixed Messages

This cycle of overeating can lead to a yo-yo effect.

If you consistently overeat, you'll trigger changes in your stomach, the doctor says. The neurological tissue at the top of the stomach, which signals the brain that the stomach is full, starts to malfunction.

"When you overeat time and time again, this electrical conduit pathway gets tired and it doesn't tell your brain that you're full anymore," says Stiles. "It may send abnormal signals and you may not even realize you're full."

If you drink lots of icy beverages with your food, the mixed messages to your body only worsen, she says. "When you drink cold liquids, your stomach will start contracting and it will massage the food that will again quickly leave [the] stomach to the rest of the gastrointestinal track."

This means your stomach will be empty sooner than normal, and you will be hungrier sooner.




Reading this brought to mind what Ellen wrote along these lines:

Quote:
Christian Temperance and Bible Hygiene (1890), page 51, paragraph 2
Chapter Title: Relation of Diet to Health and Morals

Many make a mistake in drinking cold water with their meals. Food should not be washed down. Taken with meals, water diminishes the flow of the saliva; and the colder the water, the greater the injury to the stomach. Ice-water or ice-lemonade, taken with meals, will arrest digestion until the system has imparted sufficient warmth to the stomach to enable it to take up its work again. Masticate slowly, and allow the saliva to mingle with the food.


I haven't researched the subject, but this is the first time that I have come across anything other then Ellen's statement on the ill effects of ice water with meals. Has any one else read anything on the subject?

Re: Ellen and Medical Studies [Re: crater] #117120
08/04/09 10:36 PM
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Overeating

Thanks Crater for the info on the subject. I am new here and am anxious to get involved in one of my favorite subjects: Our health message.

Here is info I have gathered on the subject:

* Overeating ages people. Let's Live, Oct. 1995.

* Gross overeating in human subjects (gluttony) is quite prevalent. Let's Live, Nov. 1995.

* Ben Franklin: "Mankind eats twice as much as nature requires."

* More die in the U.S. of too much food than of too little. LL. Jan. 1995.

* After a high-fat meal, the body produces an excess of the hormone insulin, which locks fat in the fat cells, contributing to a pot-belly. Higher insulin levels also stimulate the appetite which leads to overeating...Processed foods like sugar and high-fat foods can overstimulate insulin production and appetite. --LL. June 1995.

* Some folks with high cholesterol--above 300--get it up ther by "sheer gluttony." Some people pigging out on foods like steak for breakfast, lunch and supper.

* Overeating is just as dangerous to the heart and arteries as a high-fat diet.

* Large meals put the heart through digestive stress tests. They force the pancreas to crank out lots of insulin. These high insulin levels help clog the arteries. --Prevention, May 1995.

* "More people are killed by overeating and drinking than by the sword." --Sir William Osler.

* Don't overload the circuits by pigging out. Stuffing with too large meals makes you tired. The blood is diverted from the rest of the body, including the brain to help the stomach deal with the log jam of food. --Prevention, March 2002.

* "Big Meal, Bad Heart" - When you consume 50 grams of fat at one sitting--easy to do at one big meal--the arteries lose flexibility for the next 4-hours, a period of time called the heart attack danger zone.. As we get older we need less calories. --Prevention Sept. 2000.

* "Eating too many calories--possibly America's most deadly dietary vice." --Prevention Jan. 2004.

* "When Christ accepted invitations to feasts and gatherings, He did not partake of all the food offered Him, but quietly ate of that which was appropriate for His physical necessities, avoiding the many things that He did not need. His disciples were frequently invited with Him, and His conduct was a lesson to them, teaching them not to indulge appetite by overeating or by eating improper food. He showed them that portions of the food provided could be passed by and portions chosen." Ellen White, 7 Manuscripe Releases, p. 412.

Comment: Overeating is just plain old gluttony, a term we don't hear or use any more. But by the grace and help of the Lord we can overcome in this regard.

Suzanne

Re: Ellen and Medical Studies [Re: Suzanne] #117128
08/05/09 11:20 AM
08/05/09 11:20 AM
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welcome Suzanne to the Maritime forums.

Looking forward to your health nuggets and whatever else in the various forums of Maritime.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

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Re: Ellen and Medical Studies [Re: Daryl] #117186
08/06/09 11:07 AM
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vastergotland  Offline
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Something I just read. Does it fit?

"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." ~ Mark Twain


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: Ellen and Medical Studies [Re: vastergotland] #117358
08/10/09 06:09 AM
08/10/09 06:09 AM
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crater  Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: västergötland
Something I just read. Does it fit?

"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." ~ Mark Twain
I don't see how it fits here! Do you?

Re: Ellen and Medical Studies [Re: crater] #117379
08/10/09 02:10 PM
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vastergotland  Offline
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Dont be so upset, its just a thoughtprovoking quote and a question.


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: Ellen and Medical Studies [Re: vastergotland] #117418
08/10/09 09:16 PM
08/10/09 09:16 PM
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Yes, Thomas, it is a helpful warning to have one's health facts accurate.

Re: Ellen and Medical Studies [Re: Suzanne] #117419
08/10/09 09:34 PM
08/10/09 09:34 PM
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Gluttony is unwonted, certainly.

Need clarification on one thing: "...a high fat meal...an excess of...insulin..." Is this meal a meal too high in fat while having a majority of carbohydrates - such diets/meals as is officially warned against by government health advice, or a low carb higher fat and mainly protein diet/meal? Two vastly distinct diets, after all: which one is being addressed here?

Also, while cholesterol is largely necessary for the body - cholesterol lowered enough (not sure of the 'level' below average) is a cause of heart disease! - insulin converts excess glucose to fat tissue, not dietary fat to fat tissue! Insulin also extracts fat tissue back to glucose doesn't it, for energy purposes when the dietary supplied glucose is exhausted - that's when one gets a stitch while exercising, after all.

High fat is not automatically gluttony - not if balanced with low carbs for example, so that the food groups aren't imbalanced.

Ensuring good health, if not optimal health, is our task, indeed.

Re: Ellen and Medical Studies [Re: Colin] #117480
08/11/09 01:07 PM
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In Malaysias "the sun" daily, obesity is reported as a risk factor for increased mortality in the pig flue.


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell

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