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Re: The Pillars of Faith in Adventism [Re: Rosangela] #120406
10/12/09 05:29 PM
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Seems to me the only difference between us and the rest of Christendom is our understanding of 1844 and the MOB. Did I miss something? Is there something else we are the only church who believes?

Re: The Pillars of Faith in Adventism [Re: Mountain Man] #120408
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You sound almost disappointed that there are Christians who are not adventist?


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: The Pillars of Faith in Adventism [Re: vastergotland] #120409
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Not at all. Do you agree Adventists have doctrines no one else has?

Re: The Pillars of Faith in Adventism [Re: Mountain Man] #120412
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Adventism has an unique angle on a couple of doctrines, is true. Do you agree that this does not make Adventists superior in any way that carries any weight?


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: The Pillars of Faith in Adventism [Re: Mountain Man] #120424
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Seems to me the only difference between us and the rest of Christendom is our understanding of 1844 and the MOB. Did I miss something? Is there something else we are the only church who believes?

What is MOB?
This is the only difference but, as I said, the sanctuary truth is linked to other truths that are not generally emphasized by other churches; so there was a rediscovering of these truths, and the truths rediscovered, together, made the SDA Church a distinct church. No other church has all those truths together.

Re: The Pillars of Faith in Adventism [Re: Rosangela] #120425
10/12/09 11:22 PM
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MOB = Mark of the Beast.

Our understanding of righteousness by faith, or, at least, the message of righteousness by faith which God sent to us through the 1888 messengers, is different than that of evangelical Christianity.

Another difference is the emphasis on God's character:

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God's greatest desire is for you to see a clear picture of His character. When you see Him clearly, you will find His love irresistible.

For many, "seeing God clearly" requires that they see God's face. However, how He looks is not the issue. Seeing and understanding His character is what's most important. The more clearly we understand Him, the more we will find His love irresistible. As we begin to experience His love, our own lives will begin to make more sense.(http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/index.html)


I've seen very little of this emphasis in Evangelical Christianity.


Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
Re: The Pillars of Faith in Adventism [Re: Tom] #120426
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Although the rediscovering of RBF came later (1888), when the church was already organized, it is included in the three angels' messages, so it is a pillar.
As to God's character, I think it's not specified as a pillar or waymark, but it is intermingled with all the aspects of our faith, and with the several waymarks.

P.S. Thank you. English is fond of abbreviations.

Re: The Pillars of Faith in Adventism [Re: Rosangela] #120429
10/13/09 01:35 AM
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I was bringing out differences between SDAism and non-SDA's include the teaching of rbf which the 1888 messengers brought, plus the SDA emphasis on the character of God (which should be much greater than it is, but, even so, is much greater than what I've seen in Evangelical Christianity).

It should be made clear that the message which God sent us in 1888 was not simply the Evangelical message of righteousness by faith.


Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
Re: The Pillars of Faith in Adventism [Re: Tom] #120447
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Originally Posted By: Rosangela
No other church has all those truths together.

I agree.

Re: The Pillars of Faith in Adventism [Re: vastergotland] #120448
10/13/09 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: västergötland
Adventism has an unique angle on a couple of doctrines, is true. Do you agree that this does not make Adventists superior in any way that carries any weight?

Actually, I believe the "unique angle" is critical. When human probation closes, anyone who refuses to comply with them will be destroyed by the brightness of Jesus' coming.

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