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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: crater] #120256
10/08/09 05:49 AM
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Watch this video of an interview with Vitamin D Council Executive Director Dr John Cannel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRmSV8OUzq0 )

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Vitamin D is important for helping the immune system fight the flu virus. One reason why the flu may be more contagious in the winter time is because of the lack of sunlight. The lack of sunlight prevents our skin from producing sufficient levels of vitamin D. There is now documented evidence about the roles of solar ultraviolet-B radiation and vitamin D in reducing case-fatality rates from the 1918-1918 influenza Pandemic in EU.

I quote: There are two mechanisms whereby vitamin D can reduce the risk of death once the pandemic influenza virus infection took hold: reduced production of pro-inflammatory cytokines and reduced risk of bacterial pneumonia.

The type of vitamin D which can fight viruses can ONLY be made from natural sunlight. It is known as D3, which is made from sunlight when 7-dehydrocholesterol in our skin reacts with UV light.

I quote: It is then twice activated in the liver and kidney to make 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D. This attaches to receptors on genes that control their expression, which turn protein production on or off. Vitamin D regulates the expression of more than 1,000 genes throughout the body. They include genes in macrophages, cells in the immune system that, among other things, ATTACK AND DESTROY VIRUSES.

Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Green Cochoa] #120257
10/08/09 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: Green Cochoa
I just received the following notice:
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Join Dr. Neil Nedley and Dr. Randy Siebold on the 3ABN Today program tomorrow, Thursday, October 7, 2009 starting at 8 p.m. CST. They will be discussing simple answers for the U.S. health care debacle as well as solutions for a crisis in America that is almost never talked about, yet may have deadly consequences for the U.S. economy. The program features a live call-in section.


Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Thanks for the info GC.

I think Thursday evening 3ABN Today programs are usually two hours and I think you can call in or email questions to be answered in the second hour.

Re: SWINE FLU [Re: crater] #120296
10/09/09 01:18 PM
10/09/09 01:18 PM
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I was just browsing the internet for some health-related information about tranquilizers (trying to learn if they contain thimerosal or not), and came across this more "swine-flu" (and vaccines, but dare I cross-post?) related website that perhaps might interest some here.

http://www.leadingcauseofdeathprescriptiondrugs.com/

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Green Cochoa] #120385
10/12/09 02:08 PM
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A post not relating to the pigs flu as such but towards the medical science scepticism present:

During a lecture today, the teacher made the example of a herb that has been used in chinese medicine against malaria for thousands of years. It has traditionally been drunk as a tea and has good effect without side effects or causing resistance in the amoebae. In modern times one active ingredient has been harvested from the plant and made into a pill, which certainly kills the bugg, but has also managed to cause resistance in such a short period as only 10 years. Notice that the big issue here is not the medication as such but the refining processes applied to it when turning the tea to a pill.


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21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: SWINE FLU [Re: vastergotland] #120511
10/15/09 01:34 AM
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October 14, 2009

Stephen Harper won't commit himself to flu shot:

http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2009/10/14/h1n1-research-funding.html
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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: gordonb1] #120721
10/20/09 02:19 PM
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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: crater] #120732
10/20/09 05:34 PM
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This is just a little word of caution and intented to balance other statements without negating them. When combatting the Swine flue Virus or any disease with Vitamins, a thing to keep in mind is that there's a optimal concentration level in all things that changes constantly depending on the individual and their lifestyle. Plus, God's food are perfect in their natural form and design to be ingested as a whole in reasonable amounts. When we start to focuss on certain value of the food and ingest high amounts(in quantity or in juices stripping the fiber) or in pills form, then we are stepping out of the intent design.

Too much concentration of vitamins can cause counter-effects and stresses the body by producing free-radicals. Even thought they are anti-oxidant by nature, can produces free-radical if the amount is in high concentration. Here's just a few articles that I quickly found on the net, but there's numerous research that shows this phenomena as now we have more data with our society doing this for decades.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/20/us/personal-health-838780.html

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1200/is_n9_v151/ai_19217888/
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Indeed, too much E appeared to be detrimental. Among nonsmokers, she notes, the highest-dose supplementation "did not offer protection. In fact, there was a definite hint things were going the other way"-that the vitamin was actually fostering the production of free radicals. Blood cells from heavily supplemented smokers didn't show the same effect, presumably, she says, because any excess vitamin was being used up in detoxifying radicals generated by smoking.

http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLC_enCA311CA311&q=free+radicals+megadose+Viramin
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How much is enough?
Although there is little doubt that antioxidants are a necessary component for good health, no one knows if supplements should be taken and, if so, how much. Antioxidants supplements were once thought to be harmless but increasingly we are becoming aware of interactions and potential toxicity. It is interesting to note that, in the normal concentrations found in the body, vitamin C and beta-carotene are antioxidants; but at higher concentrations they are pro-oxidants and, thus, harmful. Also, very little is known about the long term consequences of megadoses of antioxidants. The body's finely tuned mechanisms are carefully balanced to withstand a variety of insults. Taking chemicals without a complete understanding of all of their effects may disrupt this balance.

http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2004/11/10/vitamin-E041110.html
Quote:
The researchers speculate high doses of vitamin E may upset the body's natural antioxidant process, or perhaps it interferes with the body's ability to detoxify drugs and toxins. They recommend people talk to their doctor or dietician about using vitamin E.



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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Elle] #120740
10/20/09 11:41 PM
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Elle,

It's interesting that you should focus on Vitamin E. There have been many studies done to find a toxicity level (overdose) for Vitamin E. No toxicity level has yet been found. Look carefully at the language of the quotes you posted. For example: "The researchers speculate high doses of Vitamin E may upset....or perhaps...." There is nothing definitive there.

Keep in mind that the pharmaceutical companies do not make money selling vitamins. Their goal (for the love of money) is to discredit vitamins, and make doctors into "unprofessional practitioners" if they recommend them.

As with anything else, there is a balance, of course. A patient said to his doctor once "Doc, the hot peppers are just like medicine to me!" The physician replied, "If the peppers are your medicine, use them like medicine...when you're sick!"

The same is true of vitamins. I don't believe they should be used daily, just for the sake of a daily "boost." But when one is sick, high-dose vitamins may be required to treat a vitamin deficiency and/or a condition for which the vitamin will be therapeutic. If someone gets scurvy, by all means, give them some large doses of Vitamin D.

When I got the H1N1, I took large doses of Vitamin C. Several grams a day. With lots of water. The water will flush any excess of the vitamin, and help to cleanse the body. In my case, I was able to return to work three days later. No hospital visit. No clinic. No antibiotics or antiviral medication. No Tamiflu. Just natural vitamins. (I think I may have taken a B-complex also.) And some hot/cold showers.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Green Cochoa] #120802
10/22/09 05:36 AM
10/22/09 05:36 AM
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I just received the following notice:

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October 21, 2009
The newsletters are also available via RSS: <http://rss.mercola.com/NL/rss.aspx>


ALERT: Special Swine Flu Update <http://www.mercola.com/LT/track.asp?l=1324>

Urgent and vital information you need to know about the massive amount of disinformation that the media has recently escalated as best demonstrated by 60 Minutes segment on Swine Flu which aired this past Sunday.

Normally our editorial process has us test, research and review articles over a three week period before it finally reaches the newsletter. However, this article is an exception which is why it is coming out as a special alert.

Read my special report <http://www.mercola.com/LT/track.asp?l=1324> on this vital topic so you can avoid deception and manipulation by the conventional media.

The last time we sent out a special report like this over one million people viewed the page and it was the sixth most viewed page on the Internet that day. So our apologies if our servers are not giving you the page as quickly as you would like. Just be patient and keep trying.

ALERT: Special Swine Flu Update <http://www.mercola.com/LT/track.asp?l=1324>


Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Green Cochoa] #120803
10/22/09 12:14 PM
10/22/09 12:14 PM
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I came across the following link through one of my Facebook Friends:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14312

There is a video there from an earlier Swine Flu Pandemic Scare that never materialized, however, the flu shot that was taken by many back then resulted in other illnesses, one in particular. Watch the video for very interesting information regarding this.

Also read the article contained in the above link.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

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