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Re: Lesson #5 - From Complaints to APOSTASY
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10/25/09 03:28 PM
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The lesson for Sunday says: After all the miracles they had witnessed in Egypt and the crossing of the Red Sea, their murmuring was rebellious. Their influence could have been contagious and destructive to the young nation. And fire from the Lord destroyed them in "the uttermost parts of the camp" (vs. 1). Only the intercession of Moses quenched the fire. And the lesson for Monday says: Later , when Moses heard and saw the people "weeping" at the door of their tents and crying out, "Who shall give us flesh to eat?" (Num. 11:4), how did he react? Why was his attitude unjustified? Where do we see the flawed humanity of this great man of God coming through? Vss. 10-15. Points to note: the murmurings arose among the mixed multitude; to prevent the spreading of the murmurings through the entire camp, fire (lightning) came from the cloud and consumed the instigators of the trouble; Moses himself came very near distrusting the Lord. Satan... came with his temptations first to the mixed multitude, the believing Egyptians, and stirred them up to seditious murmurings. These murmurings would soon have leavened the entire camp, had not the wrath of God in fire from Heaven flashed like lightning from the cloudy pillar and consumed those who were the instigators of the trouble. Yet this, instead of humbling them, seemed only to increase their murmurings. When Moses heard the people weeping in the door of their tents, and complaining throughout their families, he was greatly distressed. Here Moses, himself, came very near distrusting the Lord. ... The burden seemed almost insupportable. Did not Moses at this time regret that he had not consented to have Israel destroyed, and himself made a great nation? Such temptations troubled him. It grieved him sorely to have them direct their complaints against him, as if every supposed deprivation was chargeable to him. ... His heart sunk within him; but he turned to the only One who could help him in his trouble. His was a prayer which was almost a complaint. ‘Wherefore hast thou afflicted thy servant? and wherefore have I not found favor in thy sight, that thou layest the burden of all this people upon me?’ ‘Whence should I have flesh to give unto all this people? for they weep unto me, saying, Give us flesh that we may eat. I am not able to bear all this people alone, because it is too heavy for me. And if thou deal thus with me, kill me, I pray thee, out of hand, if I have found favor in thy sight; and let me not see my wretchedness.’ This prayer does not do honor to Moses, who had seen so much of the power of God. The burdens of care had overtaxed him. He could have borne them all had the people stood by him; but he knew that their perverseness would only be quelled by the display of God's wrath, and he preferred death rather than to see Israel disgraced and their enemies triumph. The Lord heard the prayer of his servant, and the answer came, strong and positive, directing him to gather before him seventy men... who were qualified to be judges or officers. ... But had Moses shown simple trust and confidence in God, corresponding to his great goodness and mercy, these men would not have been chosen. Serious trouble would eventually result from their enlarged authority. God would have guarded his servant continually, and strengthened him in every emergency, had he relied fully upon him. Moses was not excusable in so nearly imitating the people in murmuring against God. He magnified his burdens and services, when the Lord was really the worker, and he only the instrument. Poor, weak human nature, how little is it to be trusted!” {ST, August 12, 1880 par. 3-7}
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Re: Lesson #5 - From Complaints to APOSTASY
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How can you learn to trust God despite the seemingly impossible obstacles in your path? What choices are you making today that will determine how you will respond to what you face tomorrow? Knowing God's will is important. When I am 100% convinced God wants me to do something, it is much easier to meet obstacles along the way. But most of the time God's will regarding the mundane things of life is rarely clear to me. For example, should we sell our house and buy elsewhere or stay put? What is really important is to know God's will about spiritual things and follow it. I think this is easy (to know; not always to do). About secular things, we should pray about them, and I believe that if God wants you to go in a certain direction he will open doors for you.
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Re: Lesson #5 - From Complaints to APOSTASY
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I don't think we can know. I think its appearance was like lightining, but we don't know exactly what it is. PP 379 says, "The most guilty of the complainers were slain by lightning from the cloud." The passage above says, "fire from Heaven flashed like lightning from the cloudy pillar."
It's interesting that Ellen White also mentions lightining in connection with Christ's coming:
"Before the Son of man appears in the clouds of heaven, everything in nature will be convulsed. Lightning from heaven uniting with the fire in the earth, will cause the mountains to burn like a furnace, and pour out their floods of lava over villages and cities, molten masses of rock, thrown into the water by the upheaval of things hidden in the earth. There will be mighty earthquakes and great destruction of human life. But as in the days of the great deluge Noah was preserved in the ark that God had prepared for him, so in these days of destruction and calamity, God will be the refuge of His believing ones." --Letter 258, 1907. {3MR 309.4}
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Re: Lesson #5 - From Complaints to APOSTASY
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10/25/09 08:45 PM
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PP 379 says, "The most guilty of the complainers were slain by lightning from the cloud." The passage above says, "fire from Heaven flashed like lightning from the cloudy pillar." Note that the apostasy received its consequences "from the cloudy pillar." God directly addressed the apostasy, rather than just letting sin take its natural course.
By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Lesson #5 - From Complaints to APOSTASY
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10/27/09 11:01 AM
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Tom probably would, since he pretends God does not kill. If this is the case, sin somehow has a double standard. Sin does not leap out and kill the serial murderers today, whereas in the case mentioned above, sin killed those who but voiced complaints. Sin does not strike sinners dead today for mocking God--or even claiming He does not exist. Why?
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We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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