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Re: Lesson #7 - Power STRUGGLE
[Re: Rosangela]
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11/14/09 01:46 PM
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GC, this section of the teacher's edition discusses some biblical examples. I'm running to church now, but plan to return to this subject in the afternoon.
The rebellion of Korah and his sympathizers presents a clear example of what happens when God’s appointed servants are challenged by those who merely seek power and prestige for themselves. However, at times those appointed to sacred office prove unworthy of their calling. Aaron’s older sons, Eli’s sons, Caiaphas, and Ananias are noteworthy examples from the religious community. All of the kings of Israel and many of the kings of Judah lived in rebellion against God, as well. How should a believer deal with situations in which someone in authority over them is unfaithful to God? How can the believer avoid the pitfalls of Korah yet stand up against institutional apostasy?
Consider This: A. How did Christ instruct us to approach others when we have differences? (Mat_18:15-19) B. How did Paul interact with the high priest, who conducted his interrogation? (Act_23:1-5) C. What instructions did Paul give regarding civil authorities when one of the most oppressive regimes in history was in power? (Rom_13:1-7) D. Does respect for authority mean that we are excused from any personal moral responsibility toward God? (Act_5:27-29) E. How did Elijah deal with defective spiritual leadership? (1 Kings 18) How about Nathan? (2 Samuel 12) How about Jeremiah? (Jer_20:1-6; Jer_20:28)
This has happened in our church many more times than you can imagine, but God overrules these men in leadership, and they are set aside.
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Re: Lesson #7 - Power STRUGGLE
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11/15/09 02:10 AM
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GC, it's utterly regrettable that things like these should happen. But I believe that wrong attitudes on the part of the leadership of God's church should make us sad, not rebels. But what if I am more than just "sad?" What if I feel an urge to change things? What if I feel compelled to pray God will remove certain people from their positions and replace them with better leaders? Blessings, Green Cochoa. Those are questions Cochoa raised earlier, I thought about today as well. On the one hand I agree with Roseangela that our attitude is very important. We are not to move in anger and rebellion. We are to approach the person and express our concerns privately, not gossip (but Matt. 18 doesn't stop there if there is no turning away from wrong course) We need not to follow in blind obedience when we know it is wrong and not do anything about it? Korah and company were acting in direct opposition to the revealed will of God. They had the evidence -- the miraculous deliverance from Egypt, the pillar of light/cloud, the parting of the Red Sea, the manna, the water, the Sinai experience. They were fighting against truth, against God's rulings, and God's purposes. But what if a leader is opposed to what we are convicted from scripture is truth? What happens if this is true: Jere. 9:16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed. Serious text! Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. How did Jeremiah deal with the leaders in his day? How did Peter and John (and the rest of the apostles) relate to the leadership in the temple?
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Re: Lesson #7 - Power STRUGGLE
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People who crave leadership positions are gluttons for punishment. Who in their right mind wants to lead a bunch of dysfunctional church members? When I answered God's call to serve the church as a pastor, I learned in college to anticipate trying times working with disgruntled and dissatisfied parishioners. But nothing they said prepared me for reality. Wow! What a wake up call. God have mercy. Very true, much of the problems are power struggles over minor things. Much of the criticism is gripping over personal preferences in how things should be done. A mountain of "I want it my way" which leads to a lot of unchristlike attitudes and makes a Pastor's life very unpleasant. There are churches that drive out every pastor sent to them -- sometimes destroying the Pastor's ministry. These types of things should not be and definately show a lack of true Christian love and unity within the church.
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Re: Lesson #7 - Power STRUGGLE
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As there was obviously a leadership problem in Ellen White's time, what did she have to say about it, and what did she do about it? Bump Daryl. Which leadership issue are you referencing? _____
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Re: Lesson #7 - Power STRUGGLE
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11/15/09 01:15 PM
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I wasn't referring to particularly one specific issue, however, I think the issue surrounding Dr. Kellogg and Battle Creek was one instance and one good example of a "power struggle" going on. As there was obviously a leadership problem in Ellen White's time, what did she have to say about it, and what did she do about it? Bump Daryl. Which leadership issue are you referencing? _____
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Re: Lesson #7 - Power STRUGGLE
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People who crave leadership positions are gluttons for punishment. Who in their right mind wants to lead a bunch of dysfunctional church members? When I answered God's call to serve the church as a pastor, I learned in college to anticipate trying times working with disgruntled and dissatisfied parishioners. But nothing they said prepared me for reality. Wow! What a wake up call. God have mercy. Very true, much of the problems are power struggles over minor things. Much of the criticism is gripping over personal preferences in how things should be done. A mountain of "I want it my way" which leads to a lot of unchristlike attitudes and makes a Pastor's life very unpleasant. There are churches that drive out every pastor sent to them -- sometimes destroying the Pastor's ministry. These types of things should not be and definately show a lack of true Christian love and unity within the church. Makes a guy wonder how God can be so patient. To be like Jesus - that's what it takes to survive or thrive.
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