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Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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I was reading the lesson when I came across this part “Rebellion and apostasy are in the very air we breathe. We shall be affected by it unless we by faith hang our helpless souls upon Christ. If men are so easily misled, how will they stand when Satan shall personate Christ, and work miracles? Who will be unmoved by his misrepresentations? Professing to be Christ when it is only Satan assuming the person of Christ, and apparently working the works of Christ? What will hold God’s people from giving their allegiance to false Christs?" I had come across other similiar references and had discussed it within our bible study group when a question came up which I could not answer. 'What if Satan came and AGREED with what the Bible says'?
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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The only way not to be fooled by Satan's counterfeit is to know the original. It's not enough to be familiar with certain passages of Scripture or the SOP, and think that will keep us safe. If we don't know God, His character, His principles, we will be misled. It is Satan's constant effort to misrepresent the character of God, the nature of sin, and the real issues at stake in the great controversy. His sophistry lessens the obligation of the divine law and gives men license to sin. At the same time he causes them to cherish false conceptions of God so that they regard Him with fear and hate rather than with love. The cruelty inherent in his own character is attributed to the Creator; it is embodied in systems of religion and expressed in modes of worship. Thus the minds of men are blinded, and Satan secures them as his agents to war against God.(GC 569)
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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Another important thing to safeguard is whether or not we care enough to represent Jesus aright. If we care more about ourselves and our creature comforts than we do about making Jesus look as good as He is, it wouldn't matter who evil angels impersonate or what they say and do. Simply knowing what the Bible says isn't enough. We also need to know and love and adore Jesus. It must be our highest desire and greatest delight to be like Jesus and to always think, say, and do those things that make God smile and feel proud of us. When the nations of earth are enforcing a Sabbath Jesus did not love and keep it is a sure sign it is not their aim and goal to honor and glorify God our Father. If all we do is love and imitate Jesus we cannot go wrong, we cannot be dissatisfied or feel hollow and lonely. No one can repeat truths with convincing appeal if they are in every other way unlike Jesus. For those who are gifted with spiritual discernment it will be painfully obvious when someone is simply regurgitating truths devoid of a dynamic connection to Jesus.
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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I had come across other similiar references and had discussed it within our bible study group when a question came up which I could not answer. 'What if Satan came and AGREED with what the Bible says'? Satan, as he personates Christ WILL agree with a lot of what the Bible says. He's already personating "Mary" all over the place and the messages coming through her have a lot of truth in them. Though they also contain error, in little droplets throughout. When Satan appears, he will appear very gracious and loving -- healing the sick, speaking words that Jesus spoke etc. We don't have to be fooled because the Bible plainly tells us that Matt. 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not. 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 24:28 For where ever the dead body is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. When Christ comes it is the end of earth's present history. The righteous are caught up in the clouds with Christ and the unrighteous die, while satan and his angels are tied to this desolate planet for a 1000 years.
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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As Dedication pointed out, Satan will agree with SOME of the things the Bible says, but he cannot agree with EVERYTHING. Just look at what he did in Eden, and has been doing ever since. Truth mixed with error. That's why we must live by EVERY word that proceeds from the mouth of God. Only thus will we be able to distinguish truth from error.
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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'What if Satan came and AGREED with what the Bible says'? If so, then we should agree with him. He would be acting as a messenger of truth. However, unless the unrighteous die and the righteous meet him in the air, Satan's coming will not agree with the Bible. If it did, it will be useless to him.
By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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I would hope that no Seventh-day Adventist would be deceived by any being walking about claiming to be Christ, no matter how charismatic, majestic or brilliant. There are however far more dangerous deceptions by which Satan will seek to deceive the elect. The Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy are both clear that in the last days Satan is going to bring in deceptions that are so close to the original that many will be deceived. Corinthians, chapter 11 and verses 13-15 we read: "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." The prince of darkness, who has so long bent the powers of his master-mind to the work of deception, skillfully adapts his temptations to men of all classes and conditions. To persons of culture and refinement he presents Spiritualism in its more refined and intellectual aspects, and thus succeeds in drawing many into his snare. {GC88 553.3}
The line of distinction between professed Christians and the ungodly is now hardly distinguishable. Church-members love what the world loves, and are ready to join with them; and Satan determines to unite them in one body, and thus strengthen his cause by sweeping all into the ranks of Spiritualism. Papists, who boast of miracles as a certain sign of the true church, will be readily deceived by this wonder-working power; and Protestants, having cast away the shield of truth, will also be deluded. Papists, Protestants, and worldlings will alike accept the form of godliness without the power, and they will see in this union a grand movement for the conversion of the world, and the ushering in of the long-expected millennium. {GC88 588.3} Through Spiritualism, Satan appears as a benefactor of the race, healing the diseases of the people, and professing to present a new and more exalted system of religious faith; but at the same time he works as a destroyer. Is Dr. John Harvey Kellogg, winning? Remember his book "The Living Temple" in which were embedded spiritualistic concepts? That was the alpha Is this the omega?
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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Ellen observed that not 1 in 20 or 1 in 100 live in harmony with the truth. Listen: Not one in twenty of those who have a good standing with Seventh-day Adventists is living out the self-sacrificing principles of the word of God. {1T 632.2}
Young Sabbathkeepers are given to pleasure seeking. I saw that there is not one in twenty who knows what experimental religion is. {1T 496.1}
It is a solemn statement that I make to the church, that not one in twenty whose names are registered upon the church books are prepared to close their earthly history, and would be as verily without God and without hope in the world as the common sinner.--ChS 41 (1893). {LDE 172.1}
Not one in a hundred among us is doing anything beyond engaging in common, worldly enterprises. We are not half awake to the worth of the souls for whom Christ died. {8T 147.4} Such members will fall for Satan's lies and personation of Christ without hesitation.
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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There are already some pretty strange supernatural appearances going on. MAITREY has been showing himself for some years now, but has not really "emerged". 1. Maitreya is an Ascended Master (And who are these supernatural ascended masters but fallen Angels) 2. Maitreya is the embodiment of all religious figures rolled into one (a major ecumenical supernatural fallen angel) and attempts to represent the returned "messiah" awaited by all major religions 3. He is a "new age" promoter -- and comes to usher in a new world "religion" based on the concept of god-is-within. Recently it has been reported that a star after the simultude of the Bethlehem star has been seen in many parts of the world. This star, it is claimed, heralds the emergence of the Maitreya and other ascended masters into the world. Link to STAR SIGN .
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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Then there is Sananda Immanuel:
An Ascended Master who is the New Age counterfeit of Jesus of Nazareth (also goes by the name Master Jesus). Works in very close conjunction with Maitreya and is primarily interested in linking all faiths together into a one-world religion.
He works especially with the Christian churches.
Some say the pictures of Jesus popular in our churches today are actually pictures of Sananda.
In fact, the plan is for Sananda to have direct control over the papacy as he works to persuade Christians to accept Maitreya. Possibly even taking the "throne of Peter" as the true head of all churches.
The spiritualistic powers are becoming more daring and more sophisticated in their deceptive last day agenda.
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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Interesting that Maitreya has not yet appeared on US television. It was supposed to happen "around a week" after the appearing of the star sign (which began in early Jan according to Share International).
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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As Dedication pointed out, Satan will agree with SOME of the things the Bible says, but he cannot agree with EVERYTHING. Just look at what he did in Eden, and has been doing ever since. Truth mixed with error. That's why we must live by EVERY word that proceeds from the mouth of God. Only thus will we be able to distinguish truth from error. Correct much like we are seeing in Adventism, where some members seem to be agreeing with some of the truths, but then, they have a problem with this or that little thing, like the Sabbath or Ellen White.....
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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Is the pope in cahoots with the Maitreya Movement? What is the official position of the Papacy regarding Maitreya?
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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Which TV show did Maitreya appear on?
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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Dedication, what do you believe about Maitreya?
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Does anyone think we would be immune to deception by only testing on the Sabbath and whether his feet touches the ground? Would not his overall character be the determining factor? Can Satan feign Christ's character?
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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Was Adam deceived? But one could say he was fooled.
Over 100 years ago, we were told meat should be done away with. I hear people saying they aren't ready to give up meat. People are also eating the cakes and pastries because, well, they like them. People take drugs because their doctor told them to. People believe in global warming, not because of them reasoning it out or looking at the data, but because the experts told them it is warming and caused by man.
If people let others do their thinking for them, if they trust in the "experts", if they let appetite rule their lives, how will they stand in the last days? They may be watching satan's feet, but when the experts tell them they have to follow him, when it is more convenient, when they say that little bit won't hurt them, when they won't be able to get food, will they be fooled or made fools?
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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Does anyone think we would be immune to deception by only testing on the Sabbath and whether his feet touches the ground? Would not his overall character be the determining factor? Can Satan feign Christ's character? Sure, we can be deceived. Yes, the determining factor is character. Satan can feign Christ's character in the sense that many people believe God to be like Satan. That is, Satan can't actually be like Christ in character, but he can be like many people think Christ is. Christ said that if He come to speak in His own name, He would have had many followers. Satan will do this (using the name of Christ, of course) and fool many.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Can we be fooled by Satan at the end.
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To Dedication, since when is it well spent time to listen to those who claim to be channelers or media?
Star sign? Can all of you go outside and see any star in daylight? No? Then that particular star hasnt appeared.. (One minute of unidentified light in one of the least populated parts of the world hardly qualifies as a worldwide sign..)
Mike, notice that the anouncement bear significant similarities to magasine horoscopes, anyone can read into it whatever they are happy with..
Kland, anyone who only concerns him or herself with the sabbath is already decieved per the testimony of the prophets of old.
Galatians 2 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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