It wasn't an angel in the regular sense of the word. It was Christ Himself.

" The mighty angel who instructed John was no less a personage than Jesus Christ. Setting His right foot on the sea, and His left upon the dry land, shows the part which He is acting in the closing scenes of the great controversy with Satan." 1 MR 99




The seven thunders represent the steps in God's judgment commensing in 1844 with the Investigative Judgment.

"After these seven thunders uttered their voices, the injunction comes to John as to Daniel in regard to the little book: "Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered" (Revelation 10:4). These relate to future events which will be disclosed in their order." 1 MR 99

They begin with the first and second angels' message "the hour of His judgment is come", "Come out" but the full meaning of these messages was "sealed" and they progressed no further until after "the test". The meaning of 1st and 2nd angels' messages, as well as the following angels in Rev. 14 and 18 would be more fully understood as they were "disclosed in their order".



The prophetic time lines had reached their endpoint.

" This time which the angel declares with a solemn oath, is not the end of this world's history, neither of probationary time, but of prophetic time, which should precede the advent of our Lord. That is, the people will not have another message upon definite time. After this period of time, reaching from 1842 to 1844, there can be no definite tracing of the prophetic time. The longest reckoning reaches to the autumn of 1844." 1 MR 100

"The message of salvation has been preached in all ages; but this message [the opening of the Judgment]is a part of the gospel which could be proclaimed only in the last days, for only then would it be true that the hour of Judgment had come. The prophecies present a succession of events leading down to the opening of the Judgment. This is especially true of the book of Daniel. But that part of his prophecy which related to the last days, Daniel was bidden to close up and seal "to the time of the end." Not till we reach this time could a message concerning the Judgment be proclaimed, based on a fulfillment of these prophecies. GC 355

The timelines point to the beginning of the judgment when Christ was brought before the Ancient of Days (See Daniel 7) to receive His kingdom and present before the Father and the heavenly angels the citizens that would inherit that kingdom through Him. (See Rev. 3:5-6)

The "time" between His going before the Father, and later coming in the clouds of glory to receive the faithful is not given -- we are not to make any time predictions as to when probation closes or Christ will come.





The angel of Rev. 10:7 is the last of the trumpet angels, he is not one of the angels of Rev. 14 or 18.
The seven trumpets is a sequence that spans a lot larger time period.

The seventh trumpet begins in 1844 when Christ goes before the "Ancient of Days" and takes us right to the completion of "the mystery of God" in saving mankind.
(By the way -- Bible writers often write the conclusion first, as in the "the kingdoms have become the kingdoms of Christ", and then go back and fill in the details, as in " the time of the dead, that they should be judged...The temple of God was opened in Heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament" etc. )

Quoting from the seventh trumpet angel:
"The temple of God was opened in Heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament." [REV. 11:19.] The ark of God's testament is in the holy of holies, the second apartment of the sanctuary. In the ministration of the earthly tabernacle, which served "unto the example and shadow of heavenly things," this apartment was opened only upon the great day of atonement, for the cleansing of the sanctuary. Therefore the announcement that the temple of God was opened in Heaven, and the ark of his testament was seen, points to the opening of the most holy place of the heavenly sanctuary, in 1844, as Christ entered there to perform the closing work of the atonement.{GC 433.1}

It is this work of judgment, immediately preceding the second advent, that is announced in the first angel's message of Rev. 14:7: "Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his Judgment is come." {GC88 352.2}





The little book was the prophetic book [especially Daniel]

They "ate" the message and fully believed Christ would come on Oct. 22, 1844 -- the sweetest message! But oh, how bitter when Christ did not come.



After 1844 more truth was revealed and they (we) have to proclaim it. The judgment messages of the angels in Rev. 14 and 18.

Why do you wonder if it is time after 1844? Why not the day Jesus entered the MHP?

The thought simply came to mind. Is there a different date for when Jesus first entered MHP?

Amen!


I want to believe what you’re saying, but I’m having a hard reconciling it with the following insights:


1. The “future events” were future relative to John’s time.

2. The “unsealing of the little book was the message in relation to time. . . This is represented by the angel standing with one foot on the sea, proclaiming with a most solemn oath that time should be no longer. . . After this period of time, reaching from 1842 to 1844, there can be no definite tracing of the prophetic time. . . The comprehension of truth, the glad reception of the message, is represented in the eating of the little book. The truth in regard to the time of the advent of our Lord was a precious message to our souls.” Unsealing and eating the message of time between 1842 and 1844 is included in the “events”.

3. The “special light given to John which was expressed in the seven thunders was a delineation of events which would transpire under the first and second angels' messages. It was not best for the people to know these things, for their faith must necessarily be tested. In the order of God most wonderful and advanced truths would be proclaimed. The first and second angels' messages were to be proclaimed, but no further light was to be revealed before these messages had done their specific work.” God purposely withheld light because they needed to be tested. The seven thunders described “events” that transpired between 1842 and 1844.


I agree “time no longer” means prophetic time ended in 1844. Jesus will not give us another message based on time.


I agree the seventh trumpet began to be sounded in 1844 and will continue until probation closes. However, the context of the “seventh angel” in Rev 10:7 suggests the seventh thunder ended in 1844.


Ellen White wrote, “John sees the little book unsealed. Then Daniel's prophecies have their proper place in the first, second, and third angels' messages to be given to the world. The unsealing of the little book was the message in relation to time.” Seems to me the “little book” was the message and experience of the Millerites. Daniel didn’t prophesy their mistake and great disappointment.


I thought it meant “this time proclaim the message correctly” (without the mistake).

Oops! I meant to write HP (not MHP).

I take it you believe the "mystery of God" in Rev 10:7 involves the salvation of sinners. Why do you believe this?

Of course they were future to John's time.
But remember the position of the thunders in the trumpet sequence as well.
Revelation 10 follows the sixth trumpet, it is at this point that Christ takes His position in the closing scenes of earth's history -- mainly entering the judgment phase which began in 1844.

Chapter 10 is a prelude to the seventh trumpet --
it shows Christ moving into the final phase in the closing scenes of earth's history.

Chapter 11 is also a prelude to the seventh trumpet, showing the "wounding" of the papal beast in the French Revolution and the emerging of the "beast from the bottomless pit" (11:7) which is masonic spiritualism (the power that fueled the Revolution) which the devil brings on for the final battles.

The seventh trumpet angel isn't mentioned again till vs 11:15

I don't believe the seventh trumpet is only from 1844 to the close of propation. Yes, it STARTS in 1844 but is NOT completed till "The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever."

All seven thunders either announce or take place during the seventh trumpet.



What future events? --
Notice what is UNSEALED at this point -- the prophecies of Daniel! True only the time element was understood prior to 1844, they didn't understand the full message, but after the disappointment it led them
into understanding the first, second and third angels messages.

Again this is all pointing to the beginning of the judgment hour, which began in 1844 and will move into different phases till sin is fully eradicated and all things are reconciled.

What does it mean "Daniel will stand in his lot".
Yes, it means Daniel's message will be understood and proclaimed, but it means more than that.

"Each has a case pending at the bar of God. Each must meet the great Judge face to face. How important, then, that every mind contemplate often the solemn scene when the judgment shall sit and the books shall be opened, when, with Daniel, every individual must stand in his lot, at the end of the days." {Ev 221.3}

Again it's pointing to the judgment hour.
The time when first, second and third angels messages are to go forth to the whole world to prepare them for the time when the next three angels of Rev. 14 thunder.












So how does that "conflict"?

The little book wasn't JUST about "time" (though that was first thing they discovered)
It was the whole truth that the "time" pointed to -- mainly the coming of the judgment and the nearness of Christ's coming! "2300 days then shall the sanctuary be cleansed".

The only way it would conflict with what I wrote is if you limit it all to one year (to the pre1844 understanding) -- yet go back and read all those quotes and you will see it "shows the part which He [Christ] is acting in the closing scenes of the great controversy"

She most definitely does NOT limit it a mere two years, but shows that those two years are the crucial BEGINNING POINT of the last days -- the point where Christ ceases His Holy Place work and moves into the final work of judgment which progresses until justice and righteousness is fully achieved in the universe.

Again and again she stresses that we need to listen to those who experienced those testing years in order that we have a firm foundation as to our understanding of prophecy (especially the 3rd angels message) and coming events. (See 2SM 103)

What makes 1844 important?
What is the CORRECT message of the first angel in relation to the "hour of His judgment is come"?

The question naturally arises what was the mistake? Did the mistake consist in erroneous computation of the time, or in
the event to take place at the end of the days? The text says, " Onto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." No mistake is found in the time. What then is the sanctuary ? and what is meant by its cleansing?



What is the message? Is it that several hundred people were greatly disappointed?
Or is it that something VERY IMPORTANT began as Christ took His position in His final work in dealing with the sin problem?


The Bible tells us what is to be prophecied:




"Those who " ate " the book, and gave the " time " proclamation, deemed their work for the world was done; hence
the declaration that they must again teach nations, and tongues, and kings. Another part of the work, hitherto unseen, must now be accomplished,— that of presenting to the people the real character of the temple of God in heaven and its altar service. The command to measure the temple is needful in order to gain a knowledge of the nature of the event to transpire at the close of the prophetic time, and thus an explanation be given of the words, " Then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." (J. N. Loughborough p. 194)

It is quite clear that the message was to be the three angels messages (joined by the angel of Rev. 18)

the "mystery of God" in Rev 10:7

Since the text says "the mystery of God should be finished," it can't refer to the greatness of God that is beyond finite understanding, for that is eternal.

So yes, it is God's work of salvation for mankind.

J.N. Andrews (April 18,1855, p.3 RH) writes:

"The opening of the holiest of all in the temple of heaven by which the ark is seen, is an event that takes place under the sounding of the seventh angel...at the termination of the 2300 days....
It is the days of the voice of the seventh angel in which the mystery of God is being finished; that is, the period when human probation is being wound up.
The present time is therefore, the proper period for the last message of mercy to perishing men; and it is marked
by the actual presentation of that voice of warning and
of the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

In the chronology of the third angel the seven last
plagues are poured out upon those who reject his
warning.. The seven last plagues are the wine of the wrath of God poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation. We have already seen that they are not inflicted until the work of mercy for man is accomplished. The third angel warns us respecting this outpouring of the exterminating wrath of God, and consequently gives the latest message of mercy. The
mystery of God, or work of salvation for sinful men,
(Eph. iii,) is finished in the days of the voice of the
seventh {trumpet} angel, when he begins to sound; (Rev. x;)
and as the third angel has the last warning of mercy before the vials of God's wrath are poured out,
it follows that it must be given in the days when
the seventh {trumpet} angel begins to sound. It is likewise
evident that the conclusion of the work of our great
High Priest in the heavenly Sanctuary must also
take place in the days when the seventh {trumpet} angel begins to sound; for it is then that the mystery of
God is finished. The reason why the third woe, or
seven last plagues, does not commence at once when
the seventh angel begins to sound, is the fact that a
period of days is occupied in finishing the mystery
of God. In this period the warning of the third
angel is given that every one who has an ear to hear
may escape the vials of the wrath of God; and in
this period also the Saviour completes his work in
the Sanctuary in heaven. This being accomplished,
the vials of the wrath of God are poured out upon
the defenceless heads of the wicked. We think
therefore, that the evidence is conclusive that the
present is the time for the warning of the third angel."

Nice work. Thank you. Parts of the NT makes it seem like the mystery of God pertains to the conversion and salvation of Gentiles.