I don't know if this is the proper place to post this. Maybe someone will enlighten me.

Has anyone read some of the emails in the climategate scandal?
It appears that there are many people suppressing truth in this global warming debate.

Thanks for introducing this subject.
Indeed there is a lot of things suppressed in the global warming debates.

These Copenhagen talks taking place right now are a most alarming trend into a one world government. Those pushing for a binding Copenhagen treaty using the global warming theory are after money. Their exaggerated green concern is a plan to have governments put enormous burdens upon the taxpayer in the middle of a recession and further to totally destroy the advantages of "the richer" nations.

While common sense guidelines to anti-pollution are needed, the way things are going the economy of our countries will be destroyed.

Canada's economy, should they bind themselves into these agreements, will be utterly ruined. Canada's means of making money greatly curtailed, while the people are taxed to the breaking point to meet the demand to ship out billions of dollars to greedy third world leaders.

It's true, dedication, that global government is on the agenda. As Adventists we have known of this coming prophecy for generations.

But the economy of Canada is already ruined. Third world leaders have no control or influence to call the shots, for they are merely (smaller) pawns alongside Harper and Obama. When the U.S. approved a $700B bank bailout, Stephen Harper passed a cool $75 Billion to Canadian banks, but never invited public scrutiny, so little was heard.

In all things secular, one must ask, cui bono? - Who benefits? The love of money is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10) and this is the driving force for those not fully surrendered to God. Yes, "the merchants of the earth shall weep" (Revelation 18:11) because they do not realize their finite power. God controls all, and the kings of the earth shall bewail while standing afar off, "Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come." (Revelation 18:9,10)

In plain language, the rich men (merchants) and their appointed leaders (kings of the earth), still believe they're in charge, though directed by Rome. This rule will come to an end because it cannot sustain the Royal Law: God is Love. Mankind's experiment with self-government has failed because we have lived for self, instead of for God and our fellow man. Consumption is our driving force, while with Christ, His desire was to give, not to take.

When direction comes from Rome, her daughters follow. The Lamb leads a smaller number.

Wow this place is sure different than that other place run by my friend Stan.

People are awake here. I suspect there are many who read their bibles daily also.

What do you think? If North America switched over to non-fossil fuel sources of heat and transportation would it bankrupt us? Or, could we survive the transition and be better off in the end?

PS - This assumes Jesus will not return before we are forced to deal with it.

The concern isn't simply about "switching to non-fossil fuel". To move into less pollution is a good thing!

Also, I don't think Canada was a big "pawn" in the game. Canada is simply sitting in the shadow of the USA.



The issues are on a different scale --

The real issue is just how much the cause of Global Government was advanced by Copenhagen, not how much "Global Warming" was set back.

Had the conference been successful it would have set up a global government structure, and introduced taxation to finance that structure. How much of that was accomplished?

Also, no leader at Copenhagen mentioned “Climategate”, the leaked files from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia that categorically shows the data, methods and entire process of the IPCC were deliberately and criminally falsified.

It confirmed climate was the vehicle in their attempt to achieve one-world socialist government, ( a redistribution of wealth, with central economic control) not a realistic "save the world" endeavor.

Interestingly -- the week the Copenhagen meetings began we experienced RECORD cold temperatures -- like 40 below zero in our part of Canada.



We can thank God, in His mercy to his faithful, struggling, praying children that His four angels are working on overtime.
The last moments of Divine mercy are slipping into eternity, the world is heading into the darkness of global tyranny.

Do the prophecies depict the USA waning and losing its superpower status?

Prophecy predicts the USA setting up a system "in the sight of the beast," that will force (compel) the whole world (not just the USA) to worship the beast. And they will use economic controls to do so. (Rev. 13)

Prophecy also shows a beast with ten horns, and these ten horns give their power to beast (Rev. 17)

Does this mean the USA will cease being a superpower?