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Re: Climategate [Re: Mountain Man] #122400
12/25/09 09:03 AM
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When the USA places itself under the mandate of the papal agenda, giving its power to further papal aims, national ruin is the result.

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"It is at the time of the national apostasy when, acting on the policy of Satan, the rulers of the land will rank themselves on the side of the man of sin. It is then the measure of guilt is full. The national apostasy is the signal for national ruin.--2SM 373 (1891).

Protestants will work upon the rulers of the land to make laws to restore the lost ascendancy of the man of sin, who sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Roman Catholic principles will be taken under the care and protection of the state. This national apostasy will speedily be followed by national ruin. {RH, June 15, 1897 par. 10}

The people of the United States have been a favored people; but when they restrict religious liberty, surrender Protestantism, and give countenance to popery, the measure of their guilt will be full, and "national apostasy" will be registered in the books of heaven. The result of this apostasy will be national ruin. {Mar 216.1}


The leaders of this world are working with Rome. Rome has positioned herself as the peacemaker in the world and she intends to work with the Obama Administration to reduce or even resolve some of the greatest issues.

And what about "Sunday laws"?
There are several statements showing the papal drive to for sunday legislatuon.

Last edited by dedication; 12/25/09 09:15 AM.
Re: Climategate [Re: dedication] #122404
12/25/09 03:53 PM
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Seems like the Dali Lama occupies the place of world peace advocate. The current pope seems irrelevant.

Re: Climategate [Re: Mountain Man] #122405
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Does this mean the USA will cease being a superpower?

Dedication, did you answer this question?

Re: Climategate [Re: Mountain Man] #122415
12/26/09 05:32 AM
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Yes, I did, but you must understand I'm not a prophet! So don't expect me to tell you exactly how this will all play out.

I do know prophecy shows the USA subjecting itself to the agenda of the papacy and the papacy using the power and might of the United States to achieve its ends.
Also that national ruin will come to the United States as it does this.

This is the means the papacy has used throughout history. This is what makes the much argued against date of 508 A.D. important.
According to scriptures the significence of the beginning of the 1290 years was that an army was given to the papacy at this point. (508) And yes, this is when the Franks offered their power and might (under the leadership of Clovis) to the papacy.

In the last days, the big power (superpower) that will inflict the papal agenda is the United States.
Yet, we also know that by doing so the United States will suffer National Ruin.

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In Daniel 11:31 we see:
And forces (an army) shall stand on his part, and they shall profane the sanctuary, even the fortress, and shall take away the daily, and they shall set up the abomination that maketh desolate.
Daniel 8:12 An army was given over to the horn to oppose the daily. (NKJV)
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Then in Revelation:
Rev. 13:11-> And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like unto lamb, and he spake as a dragon....and makes the earth and them dwell therein to worship the first beast.... saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who has the stroke of the sword and lived.


No, the Deli Lama does NOT supercede the papacy.
The Deli Lama may be a very influential person bringing in the mystical side of religion but
it is the sovereignty of the papacy which allows nations to accredit ambassadors and conduct treaties with the Holy See. Microscopic though it is, it is the political independence of the Vatican that gives the pope more real clout than the Dalai Lama. The Vatican has its men in the advisory positions of every political power -- especially in the USA.

When the United States repudiates the principles of its constitition (something that is being chiseled away at in alarming fashion in our time) and America throws her weight behind instituting the New World Order, freedom will be gone from the earth. There will be no United States to escape to, no United States Constitution, no Bill of Rights, and no guarantees of freedom of any kind. The USA will not have lost power, but will have placed its power under the will of the papacy, who already today has her men in high office positions throughout America to push all those bills that clearly violate the constitions, pushed into law.

Re: Climategate [Re: dedication] #122417
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Thank you for answering my question. I agree the USA will lead the world in enforcing the MOB. There is no clear indication this will happen any time soon. However, given the right catalyst, it could start to play out practically over night. Some think Jesus will return within a few years thereafter.

Re: Climategate [Re: Mountain Man] #122433
12/27/09 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
The current pope seems irrelevant.


What other religious leader has all other religions bowing to him?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6QlFM_-Eao

What other religious leader has ambassadors and other politically influencial agents in every high government?

What other religious leader has presidents meeting them at the airport and giving them red carpet treatment?

Headlines like:
"Israel prepares red carpet welcome for Pope Benedict XVI"
"RELIGION: Bush rolls out red carpet for Pope Benedict XVI"
"Jordan rolls out red carpet for Pope Benedict"

Last edited by dedication; 12/27/09 05:11 AM.
Re: Climategate [Re: Mountain Man] #122434
12/27/09 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
. I agree the USA will lead the world in enforcing the MOB. There is no clear indication this will happen any time soon.


The USA may NOT LEAD the world to enforce "Sunday worship". The USA may simply be the power USED to put real teeth into the enforcement of Sunday.
The Protestants in America under the delusion that this is "what God wants" will support the Papacy.

We may have too narrow a view on this while prophecy is being fulfilled left and right and we sit back and think "it won't happen soon" because the USA isn't doing exactly what we think it will do in the end. All the while it IS fulfilling the role predicted.
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Let the principle once be established in the United States, that the church may employ or control the power of the State; that religious observances may be enforced by secular laws; in short, that the authority of church and State is to dominate the conscience, and the triumph of Rome in this country is assured. {GC88 580.3}
God's Word has given warning of the impending danger; let this be unheeded, and the Protestant world will learn what the purposes of Rome really are, only when it is too late to escape the snare. She is silently growing into power. Her doctrines are exerting their influence in legislative halls, in the churches, and in the hearts of men. She is piling up her lofty and massive structures, in the secret recesses of which her former persecutions will be repeated. Stealthily and unsuspectedly she is strengthening her forces to further her own ends when the time shall come for her to strike. All that she desires is vantage-ground, and this is already being given her. We shall soon see and shall feel what the purpose of the Roman element is. Whoever shall believe and obey the Word of God will thereby incur reproach and persecution. {GC88 581.1}


SUNDAY LEGISLATED ISN'T JUST SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE --

Do a study on Sunday legislature in the EU
in Coatia, in Germany...

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