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Shut-door theology- Who came up with it and how?
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Where and how did this idea form that held that as William Miller had given the final call for salvation, all who did not accept his message were lost. The door of salvation was shut, hence the term "shut door". Why did become so widespread and why wasnt it quickly seen as a man invented interpretation instead of guidance from the Holy Spirit and discarded, and do we have any 'Shut Door' or similiar false interpretations lurking about today.
Well from what I read it seems that after 1884 disapointment, some felt there was something which had to explain the delay. The understanding of the investigative judgment was given to the members when Hiram Edson felt he was given it after a night of prayer after the Great Disappointment to explain why Jesus had not come: the sanctuary needed to be cleansed and a review of the records in heaven needed to be completed before Christ would appear. Those believing in the Shut door theory did not believe it necessary or possible to reach out to the lost, who had rejected Miller's final call. Salvation was only open to those who had accepted the message of William Miller.
The groundwork for the theory came from a William Miller quote published in the December 11, 1844 Advent Herald: "We have done our work in warning sinners, and in trying to awake a formal church. God, in his providence has shut the door; and we can only stir one another up to be patient; and be diligent to make our calling and election sure."
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Re: Shut-door theology- Who came up with it and how?
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Well from what I read it seems that after 1884 disapointment...... Did you mean to say 1844 instead of 1884?
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Re: Shut-door theology- Who came up with it and how?
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Look who's here! It's a bird, it's a plane, no it's Richard. Out of the blue he shows up now and again.
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Re: Shut-door theology- Who came up with it and how?
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Well from what I read it seems that after 1884 disapointment...... Did you mean to say 1844 instead of 1884? Yes, the viruses must have affected my typing too........
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Re: Shut-door theology- Who came up with it and how?
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Look who's here! It's a bird, it's a plane, no it's Richard. Out of the blue he shows up now and again. Yes, and its good to be with the brothers and sisters in Christ, there are so many dark and evil corners where people have no hope, no vision, no connection to God....but as the lesson says 'Whatever is true, noble, right, pure, lovely, admirable, excellent or praiseworthy...think about such things'. Its good to be here........ 
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Re: Shut-door theology- Who came up with it and how?
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Well, from what I remember, the basic point stands - still, but a wrong interpretation was held, once, I think. The door leading in to the holy place of the heavenly sanctuary was closed as the door to the most holy place was opened, in 1844. This meant obviously an expanded intercessory ministry for Jesus, our great High Priest - including now the final atonement. A Gospel message limited to holy place intercessory salvation was false as incomplete from then on, drawing a clean line in the sand, for today. A changed, expanded ministry for Christ in heaven, since 1844, renders teachers of a shortened, 'one phase and two, incorporated phases' gospel, false teachers, out of touch with the present truth of Christ's salvation for today. It's a harsh line to draw, maybe - as best as I can phrase it atm., that's the remnant message Gospel, which Adventism possesses and we should be sharing with others.   Any idea of being blocked from salvation isn't so accurate, but believing the wrong gospel for today is perhaps equally detrimental. 
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Re: Shut-door theology- Who came up with it and how?
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Colin, yes, I also believe Jesus' ministry was expanded in 1844 to include the MHP. The veil between the HP and MHP was drawn aside making, in essence, one apartment where Jesus now performs the functions of the HP and the MHP. In other words, we are still free to confess our sins, partake of the showbread, the candlestick, and the altar of incense. In reality, though, the ministry of the MHP pertains to the dead. It will not include the living until the USA forms an image to the beast and begins enforcing the mark of the beast.
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Re: Shut-door theology- Who came up with it and how?
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The idea itself came from a vision, I seem to recall, of Jesus in the heavenly sanctuary. He was seen to shut the entrance door of the holy place and open the door - closed till then - into the most holy place: get the message right, now, please, was the point, not limiting salvation to any more sinners who might come to believe. Not sure how many held this limiting idea or for how long, but the original point may not be lost sight of.
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Re: Shut-door theology- Who came up with it and how?
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The heavenly sanctuary was a reinterpretation of the initial millerite interpretation of the parable of the ten virgins (Matt. 25:10): William Miller likened his message of the soon return of Jesus to the "midnight cry" of the parable of the wise and foolish virgins (Matt. 25:1-13). He interpreted the ten "virgins" as those summoned to meet the returning Lord, the "wedding" as the eternal kingdom, and the shutting of the "door" (verse 10) as "the closing up of the mediatorial kingdom, and finishing the gospel period"--in other words, the closing of the "door of salvation" or the close of human probation. According to Matthew 25:10, "The bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut" (Matt. 25:10). Because they expected Christ to return at the close of the 2300 prophetic days of Daniel 8:14, Millerite adventists had emphasized that probation would close at the end of that period. Therefore, for a short period after the disappointment of October 1844, Miller and many of his followers, including young Ellen Harmon (later Ellen White), felt that their work of warning sinners was finished for the world. While a majority of Millerites soon gave up their belief that prophecy had been fulfilled in 1844, a small group continued to hold that the time had been correct, but that they had been mistaken in the event expected. They were convinced that the movement was of God, that the 2300-day prophecy had been fulfilled, and that the "door" referred to in the parable was therefore shut--whatever that might mean. Thus, to believe in the "shut door" became equivalent to believing in the validity of the 1844 movement as a fulfillment of Bible prophecy. What is important to recognize is that the term "shut door" underwent a change in meaning among those who saw that the 2300-day prophecy referred to a change in Christ's ministry in the heavenly sanctuary. The "shut door" was seen as applying to the closing of the first phase and the opening of the second and final phase of Christ's intercession in heaven. It is erroneous to read into all of Ellen White's "shut door" statements the initial Millerite definition. http://www.whiteestate.org/issues/faq-unus.html#unusual-section-g
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