I see no evidence in any of the passages above that the fruit of abiding in Jesus yields sin-stained results.

Yes, sure, but as love agape growth with the maturing of the fruit of the Spirit, faithful believers might still do the thing of the flesh, for there is still "self" in us, till glorification. We are justified by faith even our deeds fall short of the agape love of God, even we still do the deeds of the flesh.

Yes, sure, but as love agape growth with the maturing of the fruit of the Spirit, faithful believers might still do the thing of the flesh, for there is still "self" in us, till glorification.

We are justified by faith even our deeds fall short of the agape love of God, even we still do the deeds of the flesh.

"The people who are at war with the law of the great Jehovah, who consider it a special virtue to talk, and write, and act the most bitter and hateful things to show their contempt for that law, may make a high and exalted profession of love to God, and apparently have much religious zeal, as did the Jewish chief priests and elders; yet in the day of God, “Found wanting” will be said by the Majesty of heaven. By the law is the knowledge of sin. The mirror which would discover to them the defects in their character, infuriates them, because it points out their sins. But the people who profess to keep the law of God, he corrects, he reproves. He points out their sins, and lays open their iniquities, because he wishes to separate all sin and wickedness from them, that they may perfect holiness in his fear, and be prepared either to die in the Lord, or to be translated to heaven. God will rebuke, reprove, and correct them, that they may be refined, sanctified, elevated, and finally exalted to his own throne. {RH September 7, 1886, par. 8}
Ample provisions have been made for all who sincerely, earnestly, and thoughtfully set about perfecting holiness in the fear of God. Power and strength, grace and glory, have been provided through Christ, to be brought by ministering angels to the heirs of salvation. None are so low, and corrupt, and vile, but that they can find in Jesus, who died for them, strength, purity, and righteousness, if they will put away their sins, stop their course of iniquity, and turn with full purpose of heart to the living God. He is waiting to strip them of their garments, stained and polluted by sin, and to put upon them the white, bright robes of righteousness; and he bids them live and not die. In him they may flourish. Their branches will not wither nor be fruitless. If they abide in him, they can draw sap and nourishment from him, be imbued with his Spirit, and walk even as he has walked, overcome as he has overcome, and be exalted to his own right hand. {RH September 7, 1886, par. 9}

Does this sound like it happens after death? The garments of Christs Righteousness is available to everyone right now. He took the sin stained garments and put on His robe, why? So we continue to sin?

You continually prove who you listen to.

The devil is the one who says God cannot cleans us from sin in this life.

Yes, sure, but as love agape growth with the maturing of the fruit of the Spirit, faithful believers might still do the thing of the flesh, for there is still "self" in us, till glorification. We are justified by faith even our deeds fall short of the agape love of God, even we still do the deeds of the flesh.

What is the difference between believers and unbelievers so far as sin and selfishness is concerned?

Is the "love" you named the same in believers and unbelievers?

How is it possible for unbelievers to experience agape love? Isn't agape love a fruit of abiding in Jesus and partaking of the divine nature?

What I hear you suggesting is, can believers not have the law?
Can people be saved without the law.
Can people be saved who are not believers.
Can people have the law written on their hearts, yet be without the law. Or is it only the work of the law written?

What is, "believers"?
Can someone believe in Christ without knowing who He is?
Or is Paul talking about something else?

James, are you certain the people Paul named in Romans 2:13-15 are unbelievers?

Paul is contrasting the Jews who have the scriptures (the word "law" is often used to include whole books of the Bible) and those who do not have this information.

In simplified paraphrased language --


2:14 For when the Gentiles, who don't have the scriptures, do by nature the things commanded in the scriptures, even though they have never read the scriptures, have a law developed in themselves:
2:15 This shows the work (which we know is the work of the Holy Spirit) that the law is written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, as their thoughts compell them to encourage others to stop doing evil and encourage them to do good.
2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

M: James, are you certain the people Paul named in Romans 2:13-15 are unbelievers?

J: Yes. They who do not have the law, do not know about Christ. How could they be believers, for those who knew Christ, must keep his law.

What is the difference between faith and love (agape)?

A believer might have faith without love (1 Corinthians 13). An unbeliever might have love without faith (Romans 2).

Both are falling short of the love of God, and did sin.

Everything that is or ever could be quoted about "Faith and Love" is trying to communicate that 'Faith in God leads us to love Him and others' because He first loved us.

You cannot have one without the other and this is a perfect biblical principle.

So your statement that "A believer might have faith without love (1 Corinthians 13). An unbeliever might have love without faith (Romans 2)" is completely wrong. It is a superfluous idea.

Those biblical statements if looked at correctly are stating that it is impossible to love God without faith in His word.