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Re: Ron Wyatt, true archealogist or careless researcher?
[Re: jamesonofthunder]
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04/08/12 11:24 AM
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[R]egarding how many times the Mercy seat was sprinkled. . . I would like to hear why you think it was this way. The mercy seat is sprinkled once because the sacrifice of Christ is "once for all". Heaven's records are cleansed and the demands of the Law satisfied by the "once for all" sacrifice of Christ. But while the Law was satisfied at Calvary, the atonement and sanctification of the church, God's people who enter by faith within the veil, is a seven fold cleansing. We come boldly before the Throne of Grace, the Mercy Seat and Christ our great High Priest sprinkles His people with the blood of the New Covenant seven times. The seven fold aspect shows the thoroughness of the work of both Christ and of His people.
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Re: Ron Wyatt, true archealogist or careless researcher?
[Re: jamesonofthunder]
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04/08/12 03:47 PM
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Condemn? Those are very harsh words from someone I've never spoken with before. I put forward my experience with Wyatt. It rubbed you wrong obviously, when you said to me "So many people like you APL would not believe even if you were shown by God Himself. " I would say that is pretty quick judgment from someone who, as you say, have not spoken with before. The proof will be if the 10 commandments are allowed to be brought forward in the last days as a testimony against the Sunday Law/ mark of the beast, like both scripture and Spirit of Prophecy support. Wyatt has not brought forth the Ark. He has only claimed to have found it, and produced no evidence to that fact. Will you look at this quote and tell me what you think of it? I really want to know please.
"The holy law of ten commandments, written on tables of stone by the finger of God, and placed in the ark, is the standard of righteousness. Before the obedient and the disobedient it will appear in the last great day, and all the wicked will be convicted. They will see that their actions proceeded from a depraved character. They will see that the part they acted served to carry on the rebellion begun in the heavenly courts. They will see all the cruelty and all the wickedness that have dishonored their Creator and brought about the wretchedness that fills the world. {13MR 381.2}
Peace. As for the statement, exactly how does this apply to Ron Wyatt? Has the evidence been brought forward? NO. Has Wyatt produced the Ark of the Covenant? NO. The evidence (or lack there of) tells me that Wyatt is not what he claimed. I think it would be exciting indeed to see the Ark. Would not you? But to date, it has not been brought forward. Oh - the DNA evidence - What Ron has claimed, that there were only 24 chromosomes in the blood, does not fit scripture. Hebrews 2:17 Why in all things it behooved him to be made like to his brothers, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Ron Wyatt, true archealogist or careless researcher?
[Re: Charity]
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04/09/12 02:12 AM
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[R]egarding how many times the Mercy seat was sprinkled. . . I would like to hear why you think it was this way. The mercy seat is sprinkled once because the sacrifice of Christ is "once for all". Heaven's records are cleansed and the demands of the Law satisfied by the "once for all" sacrifice of Christ. But while the Law was satisfied at Calvary, the atonement and sanctification of the church, God's people who enter by faith within the veil, is a seven fold cleansing. We come boldly before the Throne of Grace, the Mercy Seat and Christ our great High Priest sprinkles His people with the blood of the New Covenant seven times. The seven fold aspect shows the thoroughness of the work of both Christ and of His people. Very good. since the altar of incense is how our prayers ascend to the Father through the merits of Christ, the place between the altar and the Ark is where we come boldly before the throne of grace correct? So it would need the same perfect (sprinkled seven times) cleansing as the horns of the altar. Proverbs 24:16 for the righteous falls seven times and rises again, but the wicked stumble in times of calamity. Now help me apply this same concept to the Red Heifer sacrifice. The blood was sprinkled seven times with the 'finger' in the direction of the temple and is called an 'atonement for sin' so it has to be connected to the atonement in some way. On Atonement When the blood was sprinkled 'to the east' seven times from behind the Ark with the finger it is like a bridge towards the altar of self sacrifice on Mt Olives called the Miphkad altar just up the hill from Gethsemane. This is where the Red Heifer sacrifice took place. There is something very powerful here that has not been fully revealed to me yet, but the promise in the glimpse I got was intense!!!! Did you know the only place anyone outside of Solomon's temple and city gates could even get a glimpse of the shekinah glory was if you were standing on the bridge of the Red Heifer or at the Miphkad altar at the end of the bridge on Mt Olives? It was in perfect line with the eastern Gate so when the High Priest entered into the most Holy Place on Atonement the light would like a laser come shining out the eastern gate down the bridge to the altar. So anyone there looking in the direction of the temple, their faces would shine with the glory of the LORD. Mrs Whites very first vision was about a path high and lifted up heading to the heavenly city. This is the bridge of the red heifer leading to the eastern gate. She also saw a bridge crossing a stream, and at the bottom of the stream was the spring of living water. This is the bridge of the Red Heifer crossing the brook Kidron which Jesus crossed to get to Gethsemane. This is where to go to get the water, Gethsemane, where Jesus died the second death for us. There is something powerful in this discovery and the Holy Spirit has been strongly encouraging me to find more. Any help would be appreciated.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Ron Wyatt, true archealogist or careless researcher?
[Re: jamesonofthunder]
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04/09/12 02:13 AM
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Ron said the Ark would never be brought forward, only the Ten Commandments.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Ron Wyatt, true archealogist or careless researcher?
[Re: jamesonofthunder]
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04/09/12 03:56 PM
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The proof will be if the 10 commandments are allowed to be brought forward in the last days as a testimony against the Sunday Law/ mark of the beast, like both scripture and Spirit of Prophecy support.
Proof of what? Ron Wyatt? The ark? I'm sorry, but I don't follow how whether the 10 commandments are allowed or not allowed to be brought forward in the last days as a testimony against the Sunday Law/ mark of the beast has to do with the ark. Do you mean the physical pieces of stone? That's not what Ellen White said. She said the 10 commandments. They exist whether written on a stone or not. They will be brought forward in the sky in flaming glory.
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Re: Ron Wyatt, true archealogist or careless researcher?
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The proof will be if the 10 commandments are allowed to be brought forward in the last days as a testimony against the Sunday Law/ mark of the beast, like both scripture and Spirit of Prophecy support.
Proof of what? Ron Wyatt? The ark? I'm sorry, but I don't follow how whether the 10 commandments are allowed or not allowed to be brought forward in the last days as a testimony against the Sunday Law/ mark of the beast has to do with the ark. Do you mean the physical pieces of stone? That's not what Ellen White said. She said the 10 commandments. They exist whether written on a stone or not. They will be brought forward in the sky in flaming glory. "The holy law of ten commandments, written on tables of stone by the finger of God, and placed in the ark, is the standard of righteousness. Before the obedient and the disobedient it will appear in the last great day, and all the wicked will be convicted.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Ron Wyatt, true archealogist or careless researcher?
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04/10/12 12:46 AM
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Re: Ron Wyatt, true archealogist or careless researcher?
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04/10/12 01:03 AM
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Reiterating what I had already posted from Ellen White from above...{13MR 381.2}
"The holy law of ten commandments, written on tables of stone by the finger of God, and placed in the ark, is the standard of righteousness. Before the obedient and the disobedient it will appear in the last great day, and all the wicked will be convicted. They will see that their actions proceeded from a depraved character. They will see that the part they acted served to carry on the rebellion begun in the heavenly courts. They will see all the cruelty and all the wickedness that have dishonored their Creator and brought about the wretchedness that fills the world. {13MR 381.2}
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Ron Wyatt, true archealogist or careless researcher?
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04/10/12 01:05 AM
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God is so fed up with all the arguing. The Holy Spirit is grieved by the unfaithful in our church. Please forgive us Father.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Ron Wyatt, true archealogist or careless researcher?
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04/10/12 02:11 AM
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God is so fed up with all the arguing. The Holy Spirit is grieved by the unfaithful in our church. Please forgive us Father. At what point did you become God's spokesman?
"All that is Gold does not Glitter, Not all who Wander are Lost." (J.R.R.T.)
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