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When does Christ purchase us with His blood?
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04/28/12 01:21 AM
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We know that Christ paid for our sins at the cross, but where and when does he purchase each of us from the death we deserve?
Christ with his blood has the price for each and everyone who accepts Christ, but he has to do the 'transaction' and it needs to be witnessed for the purchase to be confirmed or validated, so what does scripture shows us.
In our Bible study, here is what was presented, lets start with the chapter we were studying.....
Revelation 5 1And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
2And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
5And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
6And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
7And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
8And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
9And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
According to SOP and scripture that was presented, the book sealed with seven seals is all of our sins, from Adam down the end. Only Christ can take it and the sins contained which the wages need to be paied for. Christ has the price which is his blood and now opens it and does the 'transaction' in front of the 24 elders who are the witnesses, not only do they witness the purchase butr affirm it and the right to make it by Christ. What are your thoughts?
Last edited by Rick H; 04/28/12 01:24 AM.
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Re: When does Christ purchase us with His blood?
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04/28/12 02:49 AM
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We ask John what he saw and heard in the vision at Patmos, and he answers: "And I saw in the right hand of Him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon." {20MR 197.1}
There in His open hand lay the book, the roll of the history of God's providences, the prophetic history of nations and the church. Herein was contained the divine utterances, His authority, His commandments, His laws, the whole symbolic counsel of the Eternal, and the history of all ruling powers in the nations. In symbolic language was contained in that roll the influence of every nation, tongue, and people from the beginning of earth's history to its close. {20MR 197.2}
This roll was written within and without. John says: "I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon." The vision as presented to John made its impression upon his mind. The destiny of every nation was contained in that book. John was distressed at the utter inability of any human being or angelic intelligence to read the words, or even to look thereon. His soul was wrought up to such a point of agony and suspense that one of the strong angels had compassion on him, and laying his hand on him assuringly said, "Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof." {20MR 197.3}
John continues: "I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. And He came and took the book out of the right hand of Him that sat upon the throne."
As the book was unrolled, all who looked upon it were filled with awe. There were no blanks in the book. There was space for no more writing. [Revelation 5:8-14; 6:8, quoted.] {20MR 197.4}
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Re: When does Christ purchase us with His blood?
[Re: Rick H]
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04/28/12 04:29 AM
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According to SOP and scripture that was presented, the book sealed with seven seals is all of our sins, from Adam down the end. Only Christ can take it and the sins contained which the wages need to be paied for. Christ has the price which is his blood and now opens it and does the 'transaction' in front of the 24 elders who are the witnesses, not only do they witness the purchase butr affirm it and the right to make it by Christ. What are your thoughts?
Sorry friend, God bless you but that is not what is contained in the book. "There in His open hand lay the book, the roll of the history of God’s providences, the prophetic history of nations and the church. Herein was contained the divine utterances, His authority, His commandments, His laws, the whole symbolic counsel of the Eternal, and the history of all ruling powers in the nations. In symbolic language was contained in that roll the influence of every nation, tongue, and people from the beginning of earth’s history to its close. {9MR 7.2} So it doesn't contain the sins of the world but the influence of God and the people in the world. It is the divine scriptures opened up to men's minds. Every time God used His efforts to get men's attention and every time men responded. "In the Revelation all the books of the Bible meet and end. Here is the complement of the book of Daniel. One is a prophecy; the other a revelation. The book that was sealed is not the Revelation, but that portion of the prophecy of Daniel relating to the last days. The angel commanded, “But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end.” Daniel 12:4. {AA 585.1} The book that was sealed was opened over the course of the history of the church before the time of the end, the end of the 2,300 days. It revealed secrets things not understood in scripture before. It is talking about the revelation of Christ. In Revelation chapter ten after the book is opened and the seven thunders utter their voices, listen to the specific time the voices mention.. " The special light given to John which was expressed in the seven thunders was a delineation of events which would transpire under the first and second angels’ messages. It was not best for the people to know these things, for their faith must necessarily be tested. In the order of God most wonderful and advanced truths would be proclaimed. The first and second angels’ messages were to be proclaimed, but no further light was to be revealed before these messages had done their specific work. This is represented by the angel standing with one foot on the sea, proclaiming with a most solemn oath that time should be no longer. {7BC 971.6} This time, which the angel declares with a solemn oath, is not the end of this world’s history, neither of probationary time, but of prophetic time, which should precede the advent of our Lord. That is, the people will not have another message upon definite time. After this period of time, reaching from 1842 to 1844, there can be no definite tracing of the prophetic time. The longest reckoning reaches to the autumn of 1844. {7BC 971.7} The angel’s position, with one foot on the sea, the other on the land, signifies the wide extent of the proclamation of the message. It will cross the broad waters and be proclaimed in other countries, even to all the world. The comprehension of truth, the glad reception of the message, is represented in the eating of the little book. The truth in regard to the time of the advent of our Lord was a precious message to our souls (Manuscript 59, 1900). {7BC 971.8} First the book of Daniel is opened and there is movement that leads to a disappointment etc etc. This is the Advent Movement. The seven thunders after the seven seals are still the providence of God portrayed by Seven Thunders after the sealed book of Daniel (which is what the sealed book truly represents) is opened.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: When does Christ purchase us with His blood?
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04/30/12 10:33 AM
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Rick, I'm looking at it. . . .
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Re: When does Christ purchase us with His blood?
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04/30/12 02:43 PM
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"When does Christ purchase us with His blood?" From the foundation of the world. "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."
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