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Re: The Sanctuary's Design
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05/19/12 10:48 AM
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The tabernacle was so constructed that it could be taken apart and borne with the Israelites in all their journeyings. It was therefore small, being not more than fifty-five feet in length, and eighteen in breadth and height. Yet it was a magnificent structure. The wood employed for the building and its furniture was that of the acacia tree, which was less subject to decay than any other to be obtained at Sinai. The walls consisted of upright boards, set in silver sockets, and held firm by pillars and connecting bars; and all were overlaid with gold, giving to the building the appearance of solid gold. The roof was formed of four sets of curtains, the innermost of "fine twined linen, and blue, and purple, and scarlet: with cherubim of cunning work;" the other three respectively were of goats' hair, rams' skins dyed red, and sealskins, so arranged as to afford complete protection. {PP 347.1} I don't seem to find any mention of the seal skins in the Bible. This quote does give an approximate dimension to the whole thing. It also tells us the curtains were arranged to give "complete protection." Protection from what? Does this merely signify protection from view? or does it include protection from the elements? If there were any precipitation, what keeps it from puddling up and entering the holy or most holy? Twelve cubits in width would equal about 18 feet given 18 inches per cubit. So Ellen White seems to indicate that the structure was 12 cubits wide. We know the walls were only 10 cubits tall. Are the curtains two cubits above them? Blessings, Green Cochoa.
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Re: The Sanctuary's Design
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From the SDABC on Exodus 25:5 Badgers’ skins. The Hebrew word here rendered “badger” seems to be a loan word from Egyptian, a term for a kind of leather from unspecified animals; it is also held to be related to an Arabic word for “seal,” particularly the dugong, or sea cow (PP 347). This aquatic herbivorous animal, which is 10 to 12 ft. long, has a round head, breasts for suckling its young, and a divided tail. It is often found among the coral rocks of the Red Sea. It is supposed that the dugong gave rise to the legendary mermaid. The “badger” skins formed the outer covering of the tabernacle.
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Re: The Sanctuary's Design
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05/19/12 04:21 PM
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Thanks, APL. That helps explain it. Here's the explanation of the Hebrew word according to blb.org. perhaps the badger or dugong, dolphin, or sheep or a now extinct animal Blessings, Green Cochoa.
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Re: The Sanctuary's Design
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05/19/12 08:26 PM
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Thank you, dedication. Some might have it at 10 cubits wide, but some might have it a little more too. There were 8 boards total, counting the two corner boards, on the west side. The six middle boards would have been nine cubits by themselves, so if the corner boards were like them it would have made 12 cubits in width. Also, if the curtains were simply draped flat-wise over the top, what happens if it rains? Only a tent structure would shed rain, and tabernacle means tent or dwelling place.
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Green Cochoa. I never really studied into the exact details how everything fit together so this is rather new territory for me. Mathematically the curtains do work if the dimensions of the tabernacle are 30 X 10 x 10. Now you bring up the subject of the boards that make up the actual walls of the tabernacle. The Boards each had an individual standing in the two silver sockets, but they were strongly connected together by the Bars. Each board was 10 cubits high and 1 1/2 cubits wide. The sides had 20 boards sitting in 40 silver sockets. That would equal 30 cubits. The back had six boards, that would equal 9 cubits. Now we still have two corner boards -- where do they go? "Make two frames for the corners at the far end. At these two corners they must be double from bottom all the way to the top ... 26:22-23
"They made six frames for the far end, that is, the west end of the tabernacle, and two frames were made for the corners of the tabernacle at the far end. At these two corners the frames were double from the bottom all the way to the top and fitted into a single ring, both were made alike. 36:27-29 So it seems to me these corner boards did not add any width to the structure, they were placed in the inside corners as a DOUBLE to strengthen the corners. These extra Boards strengthened the corners. There is no mention of anything which would cover the trangular opening at the outside ends that would occur if the tabernacle had a sloping roof. It may very well have had a slight lift in center if they had a ridge pole running the length of the tabernacle. This would have given the roof stability as well as the ability to shed water without adding a lot more width to cover. But I haven't found any verification of that.
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Re: The Sanctuary's Design
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05/20/12 08:10 AM
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I'm not sure I see how the "double" portion of the corner means it was placed against the normal boards. Why would this not be taken to mean that the corner board was a "double" board, such that each of the two boards were placed at 90 degree angle to each other, forming the corner? That is what seems logical to me.
Regarding the "silver sockets," it appears the sockets were in the sides of each board such that it fit snugly into the board beside it. The Bible uses the word "under", but that is a relative term when you do not know from which direction you are looking at the board. Recall that the board is also said to be 10 cubits long, when that is actually its height once put in place. The "tenons" are what fit into the sockets, and a little online research of these taught me that they are most often used to snugly put boards together in side-by-side fashion. So there would have been no way for the boards to shift around. My first thought when I saw "tenons" was attachment for ropes with which to tether it to the ground via stakes. Some artist conceptions show such a design. But it appears that no stakes were needed for the boards.
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Re: The Sanctuary's Design
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05/20/12 02:06 PM
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The interesting thing is, if the silver sockets are the base, there is no mention of what they are attached to. On the contrary, the sockets are specified as being a part of the same board in which the tenons are made. In other words, each board had two tenons and two sockets positioned opposite those tenons that would correspond to the board right beside it. A little bit like legos. And thou shalt make forty sockets of silver under the twenty boards; two sockets under one board for his two tenons, and two sockets under another board for his two tenons.
And they shall be eight boards, and their sockets [of] silver, sixteen sockets; two sockets under one board, and two sockets under another board. (Exodus 26:19, 25) It really does sound to me like the sockets belong to the board itself. Look up images of "tenons" online and see what they look like. Blessings, Green Cochoa.
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Re: The Sanctuary's Design
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05/21/12 06:51 PM
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But, I wonder, are the silver sockets the receiving side of the tenons? Or do the tenons, which are part of the boards, fit into sockets that are not just "holes". Why would the sockets be made of silver, if they were just the "holes" into which the tenons fit?
In setting up the sanctuary it has been suggested the silver sockets were first arranged on the ground, then each board (which had two tenons at the bottom end) were stood up in their two silver sockets. (The silver sockets, not only receiving the tenons but acting as "feet") Thus the boards could stand by themselves until they could get the crossbars in to firmly link them together.
Messiah's Mansion (a life size model of Moses sanctuary) will be at our camp meeting this summer, so will be interesting to see how they put it together. Though everyone's concept of what it looked like is a little different, never having seen the original.
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Re: The Sanctuary's Design
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05/24/12 01:12 AM
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If I remember correctly from Leslie Hardinge's With Jesus in His Sanctuary:
The tabernacle was 30x10x10 cubits on the inside. The boards for the walls were 1 cubit thick. So if you measure the outside width, it would be 12 cubits, making the back wall fit perfectly.
By God's grace, Arnold
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Re: The Sanctuary's Design
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05/24/12 02:00 PM
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Arnold, I have not checked this, but I believe you mean 1 cubit wide.
One cubit thick (~18 inches) would be beams quite impossible to manage on the wilderness journey.
Does this make sense?
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