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Re: Osteoporosis [Re: kland] #134539
06/17/11 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland

Glad to hear you have the materials for the experiment. Looking forward to hear the results. I've just read an advertisement about GMO corn making chickens sick. Something about that ad didn't make me want to believe they tested it, though.

I guess I will have to try again. The corn I got from the Amish seems to be contaminated. The birds make no distinction in which pile they eat from, and I know the corn from the other farmer is GM. Even the crows or rabbits don't care witch pile they eat from.


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Re: Osteoporosis [Re: Harold Fair] #134540
06/17/11 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: Harold Fair
Originally Posted By: kland

Glad to hear you have the materials for the experiment. Looking forward to hear the results. I've just read an advertisement about GMO corn making chickens sick. Something about that ad didn't make me want to believe they tested it, though.

I guess I will have to try again. The corn I got from the Amish seems to be contaminated. The birds make no distinction in which pile they eat from, and I know the corn from the other farmer is GM. Even the crows or rabbits don't care witch pile they eat from.


I'm not surprised. Birds do not smell well at all (with the exception of some vultures), and the appearance of the corn is likely the same. So what is left? Taste. I'm not sure there would be much difference in the flavor--sufficient, that is, for the birds to avoid it. Furthermore, taste is rather limited for birds too.

Here's part of an article I found online.
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Most birds have little use for the sense of smell. The odors of food, prey, enemies or mates quickly disperse in the wind. Birds possess olfactory glands, but they're not well developed in most species, including the songbirds in our backyards.

The same is true for taste, which is related to smell. While humans have 9,000 taste buds, songbirds have fewer than 50.

That means the birds we feed around our homes must locate their food by sight or touch, two senses that are highly developed in birds.
A Taste Test

Anyone who has used cayenne pepper in birdseed to discourage squirrels knows that birds will eat the seeds without hesitation. Why? Because birds don't detect the strong scent and taste of the pepper.

However, squirrels, like all mammals, have well-developed senses of smell and taste and react to the pepper as we would—with distaste.

Further evidence that birds find food by sight is an experiment I conducted with six wild birdseed mixes, each having a unique formula and a different appearance.

I presented the six mixes in two kinds of feeders, six tube feeders and six tray feeders. At the end of each day, I weighed and measured the uneaten seeds.

One mix was a clear winner, but what amazed me was watching the birds go right to the feeders containing the winning mix, even though I frequently rotated them. Obviously, they recognized the favored mix by its appearance.

Why they preferred this specific mix, however, is somewhat of a mystery. Since instinct plays a large role in their behavior, one possible explanation is the birds relied on their genetic programming to determine what seed was best for them. After all, birds are "built" to eat certain types of foods.
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Common Scents

While most birds seem to lack much power of smell, there are some groups of birds that can locate food using their olfactory glands.

Extensive research into this subject has shown that vultures, seabirds, kiwis and parrots have well-developed olfactory glands, giving them some sense of smell and taste.

A biologist once watched as vultures found hidden meat by detecting its odor. Some seabirds can smell fish oils from a distance and kiwis in New Zealand are able to sniff out earthworms underground. But these are exceptions in the bird world.


Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


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Re: Osteoporosis [Re: Green Cochoa] #134545
06/17/11 11:40 AM
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'"Anyone who has used cayenne pepper in birdseed to discourage squirrels knows that birds will eat the seeds without hesitation. Why? Because birds don't detect the strong scent and taste of the pepper.""

I didn't know that about the pepper. I did notice that when the wife cooks too much of our own sweet corn and throws the left over out to the birds that they get to it immediately.
( I am not real swift on back quoting on this)


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Re: Osteoporosis [Re: Green Cochoa] #134551
06/17/11 02:26 PM
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Anyone who has used cayenne pepper in birdseed to discourage squirrels knows that birds will eat the seeds without hesitation. Why? Because birds don't detect the strong scent and taste of the pepper.
From what I've read, it doesn't have to do with not being able to taste the pepper, but has to do with how the pepper works. If you've ever messed with hot peppers, try washing your hands good and then accidentally touching around your eyes or other sensitive areas. Does one conclude they can taste with their skin? What I read was that it's the way the active compound works in peppers. It affects mammals and not birds. This enables the birds to spread the seeds and not mammals. The seeds aren't digested in birds.
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Extensive research into this subject has shown that vultures, seabirds, kiwis and parrots have well-developed olfactory glands, giving them some sense of smell and taste.
So a great test would be to give them peppers and see if it affects them. I would think not since they are not mammals. That's why it's a good suggestion to add pepper in bird seed to keep the varmints from eating it.

Re: Osteoporosis [Re: kland] #135036
07/07/11 11:12 PM
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Tomato Juice and Bone Health

A daily dose of tomato juice--rich in the antioxidant lycopene--can help protect against osteoporosis, the disease that causes bones to become brittle and fracture easily, according to University of Toronto researchers.

A study of 60 postmenopausal women found that those who drank 2 glasses of tomato juice a day--containing at least 30 mg of lycopene--showed a significant decrease in the breakdown of bone cell after 4 months.

"Our study suggests that lycopene can be used as a natural alternative supplement for improving bone health." according to Dr. Leticia Rao.

Suzanne


Re: Osteoporosis [Re: Suzanne] #136185
09/22/11 12:37 AM
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Recipe for Protecting Bones

A Florida State University researcher has found a simple way to improve bone health--eating prunes!

In his study, a group of postmenopausal women were instructed to eat 10 dried prunes a day for a 12-month period--a second group was given a comparable amount of dried apples.

The prune eaters had significantly higher bone mineral density in the spine and ulna (arm bone).

"I have tested numerous fruits, including figs, dates, strawberries and raisins, and none of them come anywhere close to having the effect on bone dnesity that dried plums has," says professor Bahram Arjmandi. He encourages people to take action before osteoporosis strikes." "People could start eating 2 to 3 dried plums per day and increase gradually to perhaps 6 to 10 a day."

Suzanne

Comment: Remember that each fruit has its own nutritional profile and we would do well to include a wide variety in our diet.

SS




Re: Osteoporosis [Re: Suzanne] #144048
07/09/12 04:42 PM
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Why Most Calcium Supplements Are Useles for Osteoporosis

For years, North American women have been taking calcium supplements for stronger bones. Yet they continue to get osteoporosis in record numbers. Why? Because taking supplements is not enough. You also need to engage in weight-bearing exercise.

However you do not have to lift heavy weights or do torturous aerobic workouts. Researchers studying the effect of different activities have found that one of the best bone-building activities is gardening! Indeed, gardening was more effective than almost all the other activities studied. --Bottom Line Health, Spring 2012.

Suzanne

Re: Osteoporosis [Re: Suzanne] #144137
07/13/12 11:44 AM
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"Exercise in the open air should be prescribed as a life giving necessity, and for such, there is nothing better than the tilling of the soil." Ministry of Healing. So what's new?


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Re: Osteoporosis [Re: geoffm] #157728
10/30/13 12:10 AM
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Cows have strong bones, so why don't we?

by Craig Stellpflug

(NaturalNews) Ever heard of a cow needing the bone drug Fosomax? How do cows get such strong bones? From eating lots of plants of course. Cows' milk is for a growing baby calf, but before the calf is grown, it is weaned from milk and moves on to eating grass. Big Ag, Big Pharma and their well-paid friend - the media, would have you think that milk and drugs are required for strong bones. American women consume an average of two pounds of milk and dairy products per day and yet some 30 million women have osteoporosis. Milk and dairy products in excess actually accelerate bone loss and the bone drugs are just causing brittle bones, more fractures and cancer.

Silent bone thieves

The main reasons we have weak bones is that cows' milk and pharmaceutical drugs (including over-the-counter drugs) have an acidifying effect on the body. When the body is acidic, it automatically pulls calcium out of the bones to neutralize acids. Cows' milk has three times more protein than human milk but when drinking cows' milk, a large amount of protein is converted into acids which actually leach more calcium from the bones than was in the milk in the first place. Pasteurize milk and 50 percent of the calcium is not even absorbed.

You can have the densest bones in the region and they can snap like dry twigs if there is no bone quality. Aside from acidifying the body, bone meds may improve bone density, but not bone quality. Long-term use of bone meds like Actonel, Boniva, Fosamax and Reclast have been linked to femur fractures after four years. The drug Infuse for bone growth causes cancer risk (including pancreatic) to shoot up by more than 250 percent in one year and 500 percent by three years.

With all the "cutting edge" osteo meds out there, osteoporosis numbers should be plummeting - instead they are rising...

Let's assume we need to fix our bone problems

If we just assume that we need to be concerned about bone health and treat our bones naturally, there would be no need for bone scans and osteo meds. It is our diet and lifestyle that has weakened the core structure of our bodies. There are many things that are critical to bone health - and drugs are not one of them.

In order to have and maintain healthy bones, we should get plenty of good water, seeds, nuts, leafy greens, beans, fruits and veggies in our diets. Even then, we still need weight-bearing exercise and plenty of raw sunshine for our bone health.

The mineral zinc has been shown to increase osteoblast (bone-building) activity, which is how the body manufactures bone. Zinc also inhibits the osteoclast (tearing down) process responsible for bone reabsorption and catabolism. According to the latest research, taking supplemental zinc directly improves bone mass for osteoporosis prevention. Make sure that the zinc you take internally is not zinc oxide.

Vitamin K works with fat-soluble nutrients to protect the brain from arterial calcification that leads to stroke and/or cognitive decline. Vitamin K helps prevent calcium deposits in arterial walls while allowing the body use of calcium for bone health.

Olive leaf extract can help lower the risk of developing osteoporosis. Studies found that it helps support bone strength and balance inflammatory responses.

Vitamin D studies show that it can support hip joint strength and integrity in elderly women by 69 percent while also improving muscle strength.

Bottom line

Bottom line, it is your health and your bones and a little common sense goes a long ways. If you are concerned about your bone health, avoid the pharmaceutical solutions that aren't working and do the natural thing.

Sources for this article:

http://jcs.biologists.org/content/113/3/377.full.pdf
http://notmilk.com/
http://rense.com/general63/milkmyth.htm
http://www.strongbones.org/

Suzanne

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