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Re: "Grounded" an amazing Health re-discovery of those who are connected to the Ground [Re: APL] #158230
11/12/13 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: APL
Originally Posted By: Rosangela
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You did not miss anything. The first 1.5 minutes said it all - our happiness depends on our connection with nature. Being electrically grounded brings health and healing. Nice if you are pantheist.
That's quite silly APL. With this line of thought, then you better not drink water or use it for hydrotherapy (despite it have healing and health benefits) as this is pantheist.

The person that presented the first video is not SDAs and have his own belief system. However I don't remember he expressing much of it besides some of those he interviewed like David Suzuki and others scientist or medical profesionals who I remembered went into their beliefs. We need to be able to bypass these and extract the pure science they have observed or understood. Pure science, nature and its agencies is all the Lord's handy work.

When the Lord created us, we were created bear footed and to have contact with the ground and to work the ground. It's only via sin and modern technology that we have increasingly become disconnected with nature that deprived us with its great benefits and puts our body out of wack.

I believe that we need to return to the Lord's original blueprint plan when He created us in terms of diet, exercise, drinking water, being outside in the sunlight, and simple living, etc... which could very well include to be more grounded to the earth. I'm open to this as it makes sense to me. That's why I would like to understand the science behind this and investigate it.


Blessings
Re: "Grounded" an amazing Health re-discovery of those who are connected to the Ground [Re: jamesonofthunder] #158238
11/12/13 04:24 PM
11/12/13 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
The reason why it is somewhat safe for the bird on the line is because they aren't touching the ground. But they are touching the energized line. There is plenty of radiation up there next to those lines so don't think there is no harm to them. We almost lost the American bald eagle because of high power lines.

The reason men connecting to the ground is healthy is because there is no energized line, no potential, there is only ground.

Electrons flow from negative.

Flesh conducts electricity remarkably well. We can even become extensions for our antennas, so why would becoming an extension to the ground be unfathomable?

Rubber tires and shoes stop a lot of grounding for us. This is safe in the mechanized world, but less than ideal for our bodies in general.
James, you have several rather disconnected statements here along with errors.

You aren't telling us the eagles died because of radiation up next to the lines are you? Otherwise, why did you say that right there?

And the "radiation", you understand it is electromagnetic and not nuclear, right?

What causes the "potential" in us?

Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
I love walking on the sand on a beach but I don't get the same effect as when I stand on bedrock barefoot; That is when I get grounded the best. Being in Arizona and climbing Flatiron Mtn. in the morning with dew on the rocks in bare feet I got such a sense of grounding I felt electric.
Bedrock conducts electricity well? Seems like when I was little, I stood on a rock to touch an electric fence so I wouldn't get shocked. Am I mistaken?

Re: "Grounded" an amazing Health re-discovery of those who are connected to the Ground [Re: APL] #158239
11/12/13 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: APL
Originally Posted By: Rosangela
The link in the initial post is no longer working.
You did not miss anything. The first 1.5 minutes said it all - our happiness depends on our connection with nature. Being electrically grounded brings health and healing. Nice if you are pantheist.

Originally Posted By: Elle
The person that presented the first video is not SDAs and have his own belief system. However I don't remember he expressing much of it besides some of those he interviewed...

APL, it does sound like you nailed it!

Re: "Grounded" an amazing Health re-discovery of those who are connected to the Ground [Re: kland] #158304
11/14/13 07:14 AM
11/14/13 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
The reason why it is somewhat safe for the bird on the line is because they aren't touching the ground. But they are touching the energized line. There is plenty of radiation up there next to those lines so don't think there is no harm to them. We almost lost the American bald eagle because of high power lines.

The reason men connecting to the ground is healthy is because there is no energized line, no potential, there is only ground.

Electrons flow from negative.

Flesh conducts electricity remarkably well. We can even become extensions for our antennas, so why would becoming an extension to the ground be unfathomable?

Rubber tires and shoes stop a lot of grounding for us. This is safe in the mechanized world, but less than ideal for our bodies in general.
James, you have several rather disconnected statements here along with errors.

You aren't telling us the eagles died because of radiation up next to the lines are you? Otherwise, why did you say that right there?

And the "radiation", you understand it is electromagnetic and not nuclear, right?

What causes the "potential" in us?

Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
I love walking on the sand on a beach but I don't get the same effect as when I stand on bedrock barefoot; That is when I get grounded the best. Being in Arizona and climbing Flatiron Mtn. in the morning with dew on the rocks in bare feet I got such a sense of grounding I felt electric.
Bedrock conducts electricity well? Seems like when I was little, I stood on a rock to touch an electric fence so I wouldn't get shocked. Am I mistaken?


I was looking for the report. Power Lines were built in the 60's and 70's that were causing major disruptions in the eagle halchling/ mature rates because of EMF Radiation. The power lines were the perfect place to build a 200 lb nest except for one thing, the Electromagnetic Field Radiation destroys the eggs.

This was during the same time that DDT was also destroying the future of the bird. We almost lost the whole species.

The radiation isn't the only reason the birds die...

The Problem
Millions of birds, including Bald and Golden Eagles, owls, and hawks are thought to die each year as a result of power line interactions. Some birds die as a result of direct collisions with the lines, which can be virtually invisible, particularly in poor weather, while the large wingspan of other birds can bridge the gap between two lines or a line and a pole, resulting in deadly electrocutions. The recent increase in wind farm construction is leading to a new network of high transmission lines, some of which are being routed through key bird habitat and migration corridors. Potential threats to the endangered Whooping Crane are of particular growing concern.
http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/policy/collisions/powerlines.html

There are significant studies being done to show if EMF causes Leukemia in children from living too close to the poles so what if you lived on them like the eagles did until they started fixing them?

Loamy soil with ground water near the surface conducts electricity better than any other environment, perfect for anchoring lightning rods, so grass on it's surface is the perfect place to be grounded; but when the bedrock at Mt flatiron is covered in dew in the morning there is something awesome about the grounding effect, and I personally like it more than on sand. And like I said this is subjective to my perception.

Different substrata equals a different grounding effect. Different rock, different grounding effect.

Sand (silica) seems to insulate the stimulus effect of grounding to me, all the way to the point of being in the water.

Different types of water (salt/ fresh) = different effect.

being on dry bedrock has the exact opposite effect. Bedrock is one of the worst places to try to ground electricity, depending on the rock, but when it is wet it changes it's grounding properties and it seems to be a reflector of charge like the ceramic of a spark plug.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: "Grounded" an amazing Health re-discovery of those who are connected to the Ground [Re: jamesonofthunder] #158310
11/14/13 03:07 PM
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Quote:
There are significant studies being done to show if EMF causes Leukemia in children from living too close to the poles so what if you lived on them like the eagles did until they started fixing them?
If they were on the lines? Nothing. Being close to the ground, "being grounded", causes the problem.

Quote:
being on dry bedrock has the exact opposite effect. Bedrock is one of the worst places to try to ground electricity, depending on the rock, but when it is wet it changes it's grounding properties and it seems to be a reflector of charge like the ceramic of a spark plug.
Huh? Sounds like you are saying opposite things in the same sentence. Being wet, it doesn't conduct electricity but reflects it?

Re: "Grounded" an amazing Health re-discovery of those who are connected to the Ground [Re: Elle] #158314
11/14/13 08:26 PM
11/14/13 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: APL
Originally Posted By: Rosangela
The link in the initial post is no longer working.
You did not miss anything. The first 1.5 minutes said it all - our happiness depends on our connection with nature. Being electrically grounded brings health and healing. Nice if you are pantheist.
That's quite silly APL. With this line of thought, then you better not drink water or use it for hydrotherapy (despite it have healing and health benefits) as this is pantheist.

The person that presented the first video is not SDAs and have his own belief system. However I don't remember he expressing much of it besides some of those he interviewed like David Suzuki and others scientist or medical profesionals who I remembered went into their beliefs. We need to be able to bypass these and extract the pure science they have observed or understood. Pure science, nature and its agencies is all the Lord's handy work.

When the Lord created us, we were created bear footed and to have contact with the ground and to work the ground. It's only via sin and modern technology that we have increasingly become disconnected with nature that deprived us with its great benefits and puts our body out of wack.

I believe that we need to return to the Lord's original blueprint plan when He created us in terms of diet, exercise, drinking water, being outside in the sunlight, and simple living, etc... which could very well include to be more grounded to the earth. I'm open to this as it makes sense to me. That's why I would like to understand the science behind this and investigate it.

That's not good theology. God made Adam and Eve naked and they continued to be naked which means they were made to be naked. Do you know NOW what you are suggesting?

Please do not follow all these extreme right-wing ideas of organic living. Let commonsense prevail. They don't know what they are saying, except it sounds good to their itching ears.

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Last edited by James Peterson; 11/14/13 08:27 PM.
Re: "Grounded" an amazing Health re-discovery of those who are connected to the Ground [Re: kland] #158364
11/16/13 03:20 AM
11/16/13 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
If they were on the lines? Nothing. Being close to the ground, "being grounded", causes the problem.


You obviously don't know much about EMF Radiation kland. Even the EPA admits that power lines emit enough EMF radiation to cause serious damage to any living tissue close to the line (within a couple of feet) for extended periods of time.

Quote:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
— ABRAHAM LINCOLN.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: "Grounded" an amazing Health re-discovery of those who are connected to the Ground [Re: jamesonofthunder] #158365
11/16/13 03:48 AM
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It may be that Mrs White saw people grounding to the soil in heaven.

"There I saw most glorious houses, that had the appearance of silver, supported by four pillars set with pearls most glorious to behold. These were to be inhabited by the saints. In each was a golden shelf. I saw many of the saints go into the houses, take off their glittering crowns and lay them on the shelf, then go out into the field by the houses to do something with the earth; not as we have to do with the earth here; no, no. A glorious light shone all about their heads, and they were continually shouting and offering praises to God. {EW 17.3}

Potted plants grow up to 30% better if the planter they are in is grounded.

Just some wonderful sillyness.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: "Grounded" an amazing Health re-discovery of those who are connected to the Ground [Re: jamesonofthunder] #158408
11/17/13 11:10 AM
11/17/13 11:10 AM
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Well, I have grounded my bed and the children's bed by laying under the sheet an aluminium screen that is wired to a copper 1" pipe grounded in the soil. So this will have to do for now to test this as it is quite cold now to walk barefooted on the ground for any lenghty time. If I see results, then I will invest into purchasing those fitted sheets with silver threads.

After the first night I slept on the grounded bed, I did notice that I had much more energy and the physical work I do around the farm seems to be much lighter without noticing any aches and pains. That was on a Friday by which I'm usually low on energy and looking forward to enter the Sabbath rest.

So it is Sunday early morning (the 3rd day after being grounded at night) and I have 3 cords of dry heavy maple wood to stack into the basement and into the garage. I'm alone to do this job and already did such job before and know the aches and pain resulting from it. So I think this will be a good test how I will perform and compare the level of muscular soreness will I get the days after.


Blessings
Re: "Grounded" an amazing Health re-discovery of those who are connected to the Ground [Re: James Peterson] #158409
11/17/13 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: JamesPeterson
That's not good theology. God made Adam and Eve naked and they continued to be naked which means they were made to be naked. Do you know NOW what you are suggesting?
No I don't have a clue what you are thinking.

Originally Posted By: JamesPeterson
Please do not follow all these extreme right-wing ideas of organic living. Let commonsense prevail. They don't know what they are saying, except it sounds good to their itching ears.

I'm wondering James if you know that our diet and way of life have changed since Adam & Eve? Sin has brought these changes that results in our diseases and many problems. Isn't it common sense and beneficial to return as closely possible to a life in harmony with the Creator's intended design?


Blessings
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