Everything you quote is about before the end of this age, while Satan still has control of the wicked.

God takes away that control by slaying the wicked at the second coming, are you saying they die as a result of Satan at the second coming? Death will flee them and they call on the rocks to hide them from the glory yet you say it is Satan that takes their lives that slays them?

Then when they are resurrected they just die as a natural effect of sin? No hell coming down from heaven?

"The next morning a message was brought to David by the prophet Gad: “Thus saith the Lord, Choose thee either three years’ famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; or else three days the sword of the Lord, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the Lord destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel. Now therefore,” said the prophet, “advise thyself what word I shall bring again to him that sent me.” {TA 127.3} The king’s answer was, ... “Let us fall now into the hand of the Lord; for his mercies are great: and let me not fall into the hand of man.”—Patriarchs and Prophets, 747, 748. {TA 127.4}
Swift destruction followed. Seventy thousand were destroyed by pestilence. David and the elders of Israel were in the deepest humiliation, mourning before the Lord. As the angel of the Lord was on his way to destroy Jerusalem, God bade him stay his work of death.... The angel, clad in warlike garments, with a drawn sword in his hand, stretched out over Jerusalem, is revealed to David, and to those who are with him. David is terribly afraid, yet he cries out in his distress and his compassion for Israel. He begs of God to save the sheep. In anguish he confesses, “I have sinned, and I have done wickedly; but these sheep, what have they done? Let thine hand, I pray thee, be against me, and against my father’s house.”—The Spirit of Prophecy 1:385, 386. {TA 127.5}
The destroying angel had stayed his course outside Jerusalem. He stood upon Mount Moriah, “in the threshing-floor of Ornan the Jebusite.” Directed by the prophet, David went to the mountain, and there built an altar to the Lord, “and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings, and called upon the Lord; and he answered him from heaven by fire upon the altar of burnt offering.” “So the Lord was entreated for the land, and the plague was stayed from Israel.” {TA 128.1}

If you have wisdom APL, Who is this angel of the Lord who was going to destroy Jerusalem? Is it, as you seem to say, Satan? Or is this the same angel who slayed the first born of Egypt as the Spirit of Prophecy says?

You are being judged by your response.

No, Jesus didn't create disease in the beginning. Disease is the result of sin. Nevertheless, Jesus sustains the laws of nature that make it possible for disease to exist and act.

Is God responsible for sin? He is in control after all, nothing happens unless He permits it, right? So is He responsible for sin?

You misunderstand - again. ALL death, ALL sickness, ALL disease is caused by sin. Of course, Satan is the AUTHOR of sin.

What death did Jesus Christ die? The first death or the second JSOT? And no, you did not answer my question right before your message...

It's not a question of which death did Jesus die APL because He died them both.

Jesus was "cut off" in Gethsemane on Thursday evening with no direct communication with the Father until His resurrection, (just like perdition of the wicked) the Father feeling everything Jesus suffered. Jesus died the second death baptized in blood in Gethsemane, THEN He died the mortal death on the cross. So He died them both. He had to die the exact way each of us would have had to at the second resurrection if we never found Him. This is also proof that the execution of justice is ordained by God or there could have been another way. Right? Jesus kept asking the Father "is there another way" in Gethsemane.

And if you think about it that is also the order of the corporate second death of the second resurrection. They start to sweat blood themselves understanding that this is it for them outside the New Jerusalem. Then they physically die with fire and brimstone falling out of heaven just like Sodom. First they die spiritually then they die physically, forever.

The antithesis of their second death experience is fulfilled in a corporate way by the 144,000 true disciples of Christ who stand before the wrath of God without an intercessor during the great time of trouble, except they survive through perseverance in the Spirit. They are seen standing on mt Zion in heaven spiritually, while their bodies are on earth. They go wherever the lamb goes before He even physically gets here.

And I do agree that sin is the cause of all sickness, but it's not like being good has the effect of Holiness or immortality, it's the other way around. Adams covering of light in the Garden was lost the moment of sin. We can never gain this back without the giver of life recreating us in second birth. There is an order. Living in the life of Christ is Holiness and it is the key to conversion which leads to service. His life is our perfection. God has the power over life and death. He has an order. So the justification of God's strange act is in the order of sacrifice. There was a scapegoat, and a goat for the LORD.

The body of the scapegoat was burned on the Miphkad altar after it died in the wilderness of forgetfulness.

God is perfect in mercy but also demands justice. Jesus had to die that which we would have died to fulfill all righteousness. The punishment is from God for breaking His commandment, Which also includes Satan having dominion over torment of the body for a season, but our advocate is also our redeemer who already went through it for us. We have good God, who is also just.

If the thought of forgiveness before God does not touch the mind of the supplicant then there is no power in the prayer. The true Spirit of God always convicts first, then you move on to forgiveness after the propitiation. The transference of sins must take place or nothing happened.

There is a place that Jesus wants us always to remember, and that is His night of self sacrifice in the Garden after the Last Supper. Without the transference of sins Jesus could not have died because He had not sinned. After He became sin He could then die on the cross. This propitiation happened the moment He said "Not my will, but yours be done Father". This is a lesson for us.

This whole thing is the sign of Jonah, who spent three days and nights in the belly of the wale. This is a sign to understand. Here are they who have reason. Jesus suffered for us for three days and nights beginning in Gethsemane Thursday evening, like a man in the breach after probation, with the sins of every man on His head. No communication from the Father, AND suffering the consequence of the weight of every sin as if He did it Himself (Satan had power over tormenting Jesus in Gethsemane after He said now is the hour of the power of darkness, suffering our consequences, this part is connected to what you believe APL). Like He literally walked in my shoes at that moment of my second death, then suffered the wrath of it's consequence. If God didn't have something to do with this level of punishment that His Son went through for us, then He has no control. Jesus paid the FULL penalty for my sins. Everything. In this is faith.

Without these common denominators any attempt of comprehending scripture/prophecy is futile beyond. This I know with all my soul.

Would you agree that this universe has been affected as much as earth in the scale of destruction? I doubt if Pulsars and quasars and black holes and super novas are in a perfect universe. Why would God permit galaxies to collide in a perfect universe? There is more matter in the darkness than in the light here, but in heaven you can see from one side of the universe to the other.

God protects us from the devastation Satan has been trying to unleash. I see all of that. But this universe is not the highest order in creation. God's heavenly dwelling place is outside of these boundaries and restraints. APL you're seeing everything from this worlds perspective. God speaks to us from His perspective. God had realized the wages of sin before He created Lucifer, but out of love He created him any way. There was war in heaven THEN the dragon was cast down. Then there is more war, but this time on earth against the remnant. Different paradigm. Keep that in mind when seeing the perspective of the prophecies.

The destruction of the wicked is executed by God with the result of eliminating death. This is the goal. No sin, no death.

The reason Satan did not die immediately was because it would have been assumed that God had killed him. The universe would not have known that the natural consequences of sin is death. The results of sin had to be seen and understood by all the universe.

Sickness, suffering, and death are work of an antagonistic power. Satan is the destroyer; God is the restorer. {MH 113.1}

The words spoken to Israel are true today of those who recover health of body or health of soul. "I am the Lord that healeth thee." Exodus 15:26. {MH 113.2}

The discord which his own course had caused in heaven, Satan charged upon the government of God. All evil he declared to be the result of the divine administration. He claimed that it was his own object to improve upon the statutes of Jehovah. Therefore God permitted him to demonstrate the nature of his claims, to show the working out of his proposed changes in the divine law. His own work must condemn him. Satan had claimed from the first that he was not in rebellion. The whole universe must see the deceiver unmasked. {PP 42.2}

Even when he was cast out of heaven, Infinite Wisdom did not destroy Satan. Since only the service of love can be acceptable to God, the allegiance of His creatures must rest upon a conviction of His justice and benevolence. The inhabitants of heaven and of the worlds, being unprepared to comprehend the nature or consequences of sin, could not then have seen the justice of God in the destruction of Satan. Had he been immediately blotted out of existence, some would have served God from fear rather than from love. The influence of the deceiver would not have been fully destroyed, nor would the spirit of rebellion have been utterly eradicated. For the good of the entire universe through ceaseless ages, he must more fully develop his principles, that his charges against the divine government might be seen in their true light by all created beings, and that the justice and mercy of God and the immutability of His law might be forever placed beyond all question. {PP 42.3}

Satan's rebellion was to be a lesson to the universe through all coming ages--a perpetual testimony to the nature of sin and its terrible results. The working out of Satan's rule, its effects upon both men and angels, would show what must be the fruit of setting aside the divine authority. It would testify that with the existence of God's government is bound up the well-being of all the creatures He has made. Thus the history of this terrible experiment of rebellion was to be a perpetual safeguard to all holy beings, to prevent them from being deceived as to the nature of transgression, to save them from committing sin, and suffering its penalty. {PP 42.4}

He that ruleth in the heavens is the one who sees the end from the beginning--the one before whom the mysteries of the past and the future are alike outspread, and who, beyond the woe and darkness and ruin that sin has wrought, beholds the accomplishment of His own purposes of love and blessing. Though "clouds and darkness are round about Him: righteousness and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 97:2, R.V. And this the inhabitants of the universe, both loyal and disloyal, will one day understand. "His work is perfect: for all His ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is He." Deuteronomy 32:4. {PP 43.1}

Again, I totally agree with every word you just printed, but not one word of those quotes says anything about God's role in the destruction of the wicked.

Hell is not a boiling point of evil destroying itself. God rains fire down out of heaven to ignite the remnants of sin so they are destroyed.

I take it you are applying those quotes to me, such as "The discord which his own course had caused in heaven, Satan charged upon the government of God. All evil he declared to be the result of the divine administration". And I suppose you are saying I am doing the same thing by saying God destroys the wicked in His strange act?

If you can read this next quote and still assert your knowledge of this issue is correct then there is no sense in even trying to correct you any more.

Pay close attention, it may be your last warning...

"To our merciful God the act of punishment is a strange act. “As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked.” Ezekiel 33:11.... Yet He will “by no means clear the guilty.” “The Lord is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked.” Exodus 34:6, 7; Nahum 1:3. By terrible things in righteousness He will vindicate the authority of His downtrodden law. The severity of the retribution awaiting the transgressor may be judged by the Lord’s reluctance to execute justice. The nation with which He bears long, and which He will not smite until it has filled up the measure of its iniquity in God’s account, will finally drink the cup of wrath unmixed with mercy. {FLB 338.5}
After God has done all that could be done to save men, if they still show by their lives that they slight offered mercy, death will be their portion; and it will be a dreadful death, for they will have to feel the agony that Christ felt upon the cross. They will then realize what they have lost—eternal life and the immortal inheritance. {FLB 338.6}

So you are saying this is not God doing this?

Are you saying the wrath of God was not involved in what Jesus felt on the cross?

"As the Son of God bowed in the attitude of prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane, the agony of His spirit forced from His pores sweat like great drops of blood. It was here that the horror of great darkness surrounded Him. The sins of the world were upon Him. He was suffering in man’s stead as a transgressor of His Father’s law. Here was the scene of temptation. The divine light of God was receding from His vision, and He was passing into the hands of the powers of darkness. In His soul anguish He lay prostrate on the cold earth. He was realizing His Father’s frown. He had taken the cup of suffering from the lips of guilty man, and proposed to drink it Himself, and in its place give to man the cup of blessing. The wrath that would have fallen upon man was now falling upon Christ. It was here that the mysterious cup trembled in His hand. {2T 203.2}

This wrath, is it from Satan or is it from God against sin?