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Is white rice more healthful than brown rice?
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07/28/14 05:30 AM
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I have often encountered North Americans who condemn the Asian staple: white rice. In a hypocritical tone, they will say that all missionaries to the Asian lands should be teaching the people to eat brown rice instead. (I say "hypocritical" because they do not look at what they are eating in place of the Asian rice as their own principal source(s) of calories to see how their diet compares.) While I have always defended the Asian diet based on its inclusion of many green leafy vegetables, other vegetables, and a wide variety of fruits; it turns out that the white rice may actually be more healthful than brown rice--or other grains, for that matter! In an article online, I found some intriguing information. Visit the article HERE.I also found that Dr. Mercola mentions some of the benefits of white rice HERE when comparing it against all other grains. He seems to promote it as the superior grain option. Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Is white rice more healthful than brown rice?
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07/28/14 07:12 AM
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Do you eat Wellness Mama's Greek meat balls too? Or use Mercola's Himalayan crystal salt? Just wondering. BTW - white rice is a lot better that what most Americans eat!!!
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Is white rice more healthful than brown rice?
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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07/28/14 08:22 AM
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APL,
I'll ignore the fallacies of logic you introduced--fallacies called "poisoning the well."
According to the information presented in the linked articles, white rice is not just better than "what most Americans eat." (I know "what most Americans eat," and you'd be comparing to a vastly inferior dietary of soda pop, potato chips, microwave dinners, and pepperoni pizza.) In fact, rice may be better than such American alternatives/equivalents as wheat, rye, barley, and corn. WHITE rice. White rice may even be superior to brown rice!
White rice has fewer toxins than other grains, including brown rice.
White rice is gluten-free.
White rice is hypo-allergenic.
White rice provides simple, pure carbohydrates.
Considering that the rice-eating Japanese are among the most long-lived on earth, white rice, and not brown rice--it appears that white rice cannot be held directly responsible for higher rates of mortality.
Blessings,
Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Is white rice more healthful than brown rice?
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07/28/14 01:28 PM
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Poisoning the well... Let me quote Mercola: "Grains should represent a small part of your diet, regardless of your age. I personally seek to avoid most grains, except rice." He then quotes "experts", one says avoid all grains, the other says a few non-toxic grains. Mercola says white is better that brown, but is the evidence quoted valid?
What does the SOP say? If we plan wisely, that which is most conducive to health can be secured in almost every land. The various preparations of rice, wheat, corn, and oats are sent abroad everywhere, also beans, peas, and lentils. These, with native or imported fruits, and the variety of vegetables that grow in each locality, give an opportunity to select a dietary that is complete without the use of flesh meats. {MH 299.2}
Wherever fruit can be grown in abundance, a liberal supply should be prepared for winter, by canning or drying. Small fruits, such as currants, gooseberries, strawberries, raspberries, and blackberries, can be grown to advantage in many places where they are but little used and their cultivation is neglected. {MH 299.3}
That is a sane recommendation. But oh my! She is informing us that those other grains are OK contradicting Mercola. Shall we make the testimony of the Spirit to none effect?
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Is white rice more healthful than brown rice?
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07/28/14 02:10 PM
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I see no contradiction between Mercola and Mrs. White. You are blowing things out of proportion. Mrs. White does NOT say that "grains should constitute the largest share of your diet." If she said this, there would be a contradiction. She DOES say that one should have a "liberal supply" of fruit. To my mind, this could easily mean that more fruit than grains should be eaten. (And I'm not saying this, only pointing out this possibility of interpretation.)
Mercola says grains should be a small part of the diet. What should be a large part?
Do you realize that in the '60s a study was done on oils which found that in Crete, 65% of the people's calories came from fat, 95% of which was olive oil? In that study, the Cretians had 1/10 as much heart disease as Americans of that same era, whose diet contained about 40-45% of calories from fat. It seems, then, that the quality of the fats is more important than their quantity. Furthermore, 65% is a majority of one's caloric intake. If one were to add in the proteins, etc., soon one sees that the grains would form "a small part" of the diet.
Dr. Mercola has not specified how small is "small." Considering that fact, one must be reasonable in not blowing it out of proportion to make him say something he does not intend. He may have simply meant that they should not form the majority of the diet. I believe I see his point. We need vegetables, fruits, and even nuts in greater quantities, especially in their freshest forms. Grains should not be such a large base of the diet as they have typically formed.
Blessings,
Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Is white rice more healthful than brown rice?
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07/28/14 03:09 PM
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Mercola - he quotes "authorities" which claim we should do away with most grains, white rice being the exception - in small quantities. The Asian diet does not use small quantities of rice! EGW does not say to do away with most grains as Mercola, she includes them. As for olive oil, I know of studies looking at olive oil and indeed lowering cardiovascular risk, with extra virgin being better. In the same studies, nuts did even better with Almonds being one of the best. EGW - does she recommend eating olive oil? YES - BUT - as eaten IN THE OLIVE. She is comes out against highly refined foods. She advocates for the whole food, not the refined product. And she identified almonds as being a superior nut.
Mercola advocates eating meat, raised the correct way of course. Is that what EGW advocates? Who are you going to trust?
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Is white rice more healthful than brown rice?
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07/28/14 03:13 PM
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I just found that Mrs. White does indeed emphasize fruit more than I had previously noticed. Wherever dried fruits, such as raisins, prunes, apples, pears, peaches, and apricots are obtainable at moderate prices, it will be found that they can be used as staple articles of diet much more freely than is customary, with the best results to the health and vigor of all classes of workers. {MH 299.5} The word "staple" meant that it was the chief or principal one. Thus, she is saying that we should eat largely of fruits--dried fruits, even. I wonder what she would have told diabetics. I don't think anyone knew about diabetes in her day. They had the word, but associated it with a copious flow of urine, not a problem with blood sugar. I would also wonder about the difference between white and brown rice for a diabetic. My intuition tells me that for diabetics, the brown might be preferable, but I simply do not know. Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Is white rice more healthful than brown rice?
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What was the original dies in Eden? Fruit. Is this a surprise?
She also speaks of canning fruits for winter.
Diabetes, type 2, is a fat problem. We know that for many diabetics, we can get them off their need for medications in 30-60 days! Medications NEVER cure diabetes. We can lead to a cure of type 2 even with white rice, though less refined has its benefits. Medication use can even make type 2 diabetes worse!
Type 1 diabetes is not curable... They MUST take insulin.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Is white rice more healthful than brown rice?
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07/29/14 04:42 AM
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Grains are to be a part of our diet. " In order to strengthen in them the moral perceptions, the love of spiritual things, we must regulate the manner of our living, dispense with animal food, and use grains, vegetables, and fruits, as articles of food. {ApM 20.1}
" Grains, fruits, nuts, and vegetables constitute the diet chosen for us by our Creator. {CG 380.1} "The grains, with fruits, nuts, and vegetables, contain all the nutritive properties necessary to make good blood. ... When flesh food is discarded, its place should be supplied with a variety of grains, nuts, vegetables, and fruits, that will be both nourishing and appetizing. {CG 384
"Grains, fruits, nuts, and vegetables constitute the diet chosen for us by our Creator. These foods, prepared in as simple and natural a manner as possible, are the most healthful and nourishing. MH 295
Grains and fruits prepared free from grease, and in as natural a condition as possible, should be the food for the tables of all who claim to be preparing for translation to heaven. 2T 252
"if a liking for fruits and grains is encouraged, it will soon be as God in the beginning designed it should be. No meat will be used by His people. CD 82
"The Lord will teach many in all parts of the world to combine fruits, grains, and vegetables into foods that will sustain life and will not bring disease. CD 96
So those webpages were contradicting EGW, when they advocate cutting out all grains except possibly white rice. Its a modern fad now to turn away from carbs and to encourage eating lots of protein, yet we see no such recommendation in any inspired writings.
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Re: Is white rice more healthful than brown rice?
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07/29/14 05:13 AM
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Dedication,
The websites I linked were not advocating cutting out grains entirely. I'm not sure where APL found such websites, but he claimed to find them being referenced by Dr. Mercola, who did not take such a drastic view himself. He simply expressed the idea of limiting them.
I think APL just likes to argue with me. In order to make me look bad, he builds up a logical fallacy against me called a straw man. That's his choice. In any case, nothing I've posted here says we should omit grains from our diet! It does, however, say that white rice is a far better choice than most people have ever credited.
Blessings,
Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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