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Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS?
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10/02/14 02:44 AM
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Is not killing the border crosser murder? Faith means you kill people? Really? I don't think so. What does the Bible say about how we should tread the foreigner among us?
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS?
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10/02/14 01:56 PM
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The point of beefing up our borders is to keep foreign terrorists out. Don't have to kill them if they can't get in.
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Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS?
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10/03/14 01:48 PM
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Yes. And I also pray the USA will spend war money on border protection instead. I hate war. Both my boys served in Iraq. I'm glad they made it home alive. I'm also glad they didn't kill anyone. I am also interested in why you said, "I'm also glad they didn't kill anyone". Why? If there is nothing wrong with killing someone if the government tells you to, then why should you be glad for them not following the government expectations? Wouldn't that be unpatriotic? Or is there something wrong with killing people, whether in love or war?
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Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS?
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10/03/14 11:20 PM
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My boys didn't kill anyone because they served in support roles. No, there is nothing wrong with killing an enemy combatant during battle.
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Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS?
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10/04/14 12:51 AM
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So MM, if one of your sons had been killed in the war, it was just that, a statistic, a death, not murder.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS?
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Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS?
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So we can conclude that the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was just a statistic of war, definitely not murder.
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Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS?
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Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS?
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10/05/14 05:51 AM
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There is no such thing as a just war. War is murder. Did Israel fight? Yep. Did they ever have to? Nope. Their minds were blinded - terribly blinded. We should not follow in the same path. Did Israel's wars get them the result they needed? Nope. Will war today get us the results we need? Never. Christ told us we are not to fight. Why do Christians fight?
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS?
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10/05/14 01:32 PM
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War is definitely justified. Ask the Germans, English, French, etc if stopping Hitler was justified. The Bible is full of examples of justified war.
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