THE COUNTERFEIT KINGDOM

It is both literal
as well as spiritual.


Having been in association with young people, I noticed what kind of books were very popular among them. Fiction books by the dozens, all built on the same theme -- a great battle for the kingdom of this world.
As I picked up several and read the back cover page it sent chills -- for they were all dealing with the Great Controversy issue IN REVERSE.

The prince of this world was being pictured as threatened. A powerful king (from another realm) was approaching earth and people were being enlisted to resist Him, and save the earth from the utter destruction His coming would bring.

It recalled to my mind the quotation --
"he does not acknowledge himself to be Satan. He claims to be the prince who is the rightful owner of the world and whose inheritance has been unlawfully wrested from him. He represents himself to his deluded subjects as a redeemer, assuring them ...that he is about to rescue them from the most cruel tyranny. GC 663

While this quote is in the setting of his last battle against the New Jerusalem come down from heaven. It obviously and strikingly applies to his efforts previous to Christ's second coming as well.

Thus the study ---

The counterfeit kingdom.

Satan’s aim is to establish a kingdom where he is worshipped as the true god.

Isaiah 14:13,14 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

In these verses we are introduced to what bible scholars call the five “I wills” that Satan uses to describe his counterfeit kingdom:
1. I will ascend to the heavens.
2. I will raise my throne above the stars of God.
3. I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, in the sides of the North.
4. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds.
5. I will make myself like the Most High.

The sentence we will look at is #3
His aim is to be enthroned on the mount of assembly, in the sides of the North.

The Bible speaks of the Sides of the North as being a holy realm, Mount Zion.

Psalms 48:2 “Beautiful in elevation, The joy of the whole earth, Is Mount Zion on the sides of the north, The city of the great King.”

We read in Patriarchs and Prophets p. 539 that the children of Israel would sing these words from the Psalms as they approached Jerusalem to partake in the annual festivals.

Jerusalem was God’s chosen city to which not only the children of Israel came to worship, but to which the nations were to come to seek God. To this city and it’s surrounding areas came the Messiah, Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world.

Had the Jewish nation accepted Christ as their Messiah, their city would have been a light to the whole world.
Because they rejected the Prince of Life, their city would not – could not be the light to world, it was desolate.

“Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. Matt.23:38.

And that desolation remains until the consummation when the earth is made new.
Daniel 9:27 "for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

Yet God’s promises will be fulfilled. His truth did go forth out of Jerusalem by the faithful remnant that did accept Him and filled with the Holy Spirit they took the gospel to the world. And the promises will be fulfilled completely in the New Jerusalem when it descends from heaven after the 1000 years and settles in the area now known as Palestine. The New Jerusalem is so big, it will cover the entire area of Palestine! And there we see the final fulfilment of the wonderful promises as the Revelator tells us:

Revelation 1:24-26 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

BUT BACK TO PRESENT DAY JERUSALEM:

The earthly place where God chose to meet with His people in OT times, and where the New Jerusalem will stand after the 1000 years, is the place where Satan aims to be enthroned so he can deceive not only the people of the world but also the congregations that come to worship God.

We read in Revelation that in the last days the nations won’t be flocking to Jerusalem to find truth, rather they will be worshipping the beast and the dragon! Indeed this is a serious issue?

Revelation 13:3-4, 11-12 “And I saw one of his (the beast’s) heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast . And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast?”

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.”

Next let's turn to Daniel chapter eleven, concerning the “king of the North” planting his tabernacles” between the seas in the glorious holy mountain”.

Who is the king of the north?
The king of the North in the second half of Daniel 11 refers to the Christian confederacy under the papal head. It’s referring to the same identity as the “beasts” of Revelation 13.
The king of the South refers to the Islamic Power. Both these “kings” have been waging war against each other for the last 1400 years! And interestingly we note that most of their wars against each other have been over Jerusalem. The many crusades the RRC sent to Jerusalem during the Middle Ages were meant to recapture the city of Jerusalem. The papacy (king of the north) sees this city as being very important to the future.

A kingdom in old Jerusalem.

Daniel 11:40-45 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over. He shall enter also into the glorious land,..... And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

SATAN TRIES TO MIRROR EVERYTHING GOD DOES

A counterfeit does its best to look identical to the real; but like the image in a mirror which looks like the real image, yet it is not the real image, it reverses everything.

How does Satan attempt to mirror what God does?
1. Mirrors the three powers. God the Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit, are counterfeited by the dragon (father) beast (son) and false prophet (spirit).

2. Mirrors miracles and signs. Christ performed many miracles of healing, feeding the five thousand, etc. and many believed because of this. In the last days we have the counterfeit:
Rev. 16:14 “the spirits of devils, working miracles,”
Matt. 24,24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

3. Mirrors fire from heaven. In the old testament we have the account of Elijah on Mt. Carmel, praying for fire to come down from heaven and burn up the sacrifice to prove that Jehovah God was the true God. In the last days we have the counterfeit:
Rev. 13:13-14 And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do
This will be a supernatural event.

4. Gathering the nations into Jerusalem.
Jeremiah 3:17 “At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.”
We know from Rev. 21 to 22 that this promise will be fulfilled in the New Jerusalem after the 1000 years. But before the 1000 years, just before Christ’s second coming we see a counterfeit:

Revelation 16:13-14 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet:
for they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Notice WHO is doing the “gathering”. This is not the nations coming against Jerusalem, this is the “Christian” nations doing the gathering. The “beast”-- papal power, the false prophet, --the protestant false prophetic teachers; inspired and empowered (working miracles) by the wrong spirits are doing the gathering. They are gathering the nations against TRUE WORSHIP! They are gathering them into FALSE WORSHIP.

This is all part of Lucifer’s ultimate aim, “to be enthroned on the mount of assembly, in the sides of the North” (Is. 14:14)and to be the “invisible” king in the city known as “Beautiful in elevation, The joy of the whole earth, Is Mount Zion on the sides of the north, The city of the great King.” (Psalms 48:2)

For he is orchestrating the movement of the “king of the north” to “plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain” (Daniel 11:45) and have the whole world “worship(ing) the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worship(ing) the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast. (Rev. 13:4)


To more fully understand the false gathering, we need to consider the true literal gathering of God’s people.
Luke 13:26-27 “And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. “
2 Thess. 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

Notice in the true gathering of the saints at the end times, The Lord is seen coming in the clouds, and the angels will gather the followers of Christ from all over the earth. They are not in a central place at all – they are all over the earth.


5. Counterfeiting the time of trouble
This counterfeit is real as far as it being a time of trouble is concerned, it will be terrible times, however, it is not the “time of trouble” as revealed in scripture. Scripture reveals a time of trouble when Satan goes forth with great fury against God’s commandment keeping people. (See Rev. 12:17) The counterfeit will be trouble for the beast and false prophet that will provide the catalyst for them to emerge in great power and bring on the real time of trouble for those who refuse to worship the beast and his image, and accept their counterfeit kingdom.
The RRC teaches this counterfeit time of trouble as the “Great Chastisement” .

According to their visionaries:
“Religion shall be persecuted, priests massacred. Churches closed but only for a short time. The Holy Father shall be obliged to leave Rome....After Saint peter and Saint Paul having come down from Heaven, shall preach in the whole world and designate a new Pope. A great light will flash from their bodies and will settle upon the cardinal who is to become Pope. Christianity then will spread throughout the world. He is the Holy Pontiff, chosen by God to withstand the storm. He will have the gift of miracles, and his name shall be praised over the whole earth. Whole nations will come back to the [RCC] Church and the earth will be renewed.” (Flynn, “Thunder of Justice”, page 354)

That’s just one example from the numerous beliefs held by the “false three” – the one thing they have in common is that there will be a lot of trouble out of which miraculously will appear the peaceful kingdom.

6. Satan attempts to replicate righteousness!
2 Cor. 11:13-15 “For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;”

The counterfeit will bring in many reforms, speak against sin and evil, and encourage and enforce worship. It even speaks against the devil (as seen in the Marion messages) Only the wise will see its digressions from true righteousness.


SUMMARY of this part of the study:

1. Satan’s aim -- I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, in the sides of the North. Is. 14:14
To sit in that city which the Psalmist describes: Psalms 48:2 “Beautiful in elevation, The joy of the whole earth, Is Mount Zion on the sides of the north,

2. The geographical area which God honored in the OT, and where after the 1000 years the New Jerusalem which comes down from heaven will settle, is the coveted site where Satan hopes to deceive the whole world into worshipping him.

3. Daniel 11:40-45 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north (the confederated Christianity under papal head) shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over. He shall enter also into the glorious land,..... And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain;
4. Revelation 16:13-14 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet:
for they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

This is their desperate attempt to set up a kingdom on earth in defiance against God. Satan claims he is the true prince of this world and to him belongs the homage due to God.
And he, through the power he gives to the beast and false prophet attempts to set up a kingdom that to the undiscerning will appear as the kingdom of God.

“Satan determines to unite them in one body, and thus strengthen his cause by sweeping all into the ranks of Spiritualism. Papists, who boast of miracles as a certain sign of the true church, will be readily deceived by this wonder-working power; and Protestants, having cast away the shield of truth, will also be deluded. Papists, Protestants, and worldlings will alike accept the form of godliness
without the power, and they will see in this union a grand movement for the conversion of the world, and the ushering in of the long-expected millennium.” GC 588

MATT. 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.



The gospel of the kingdom that is to go to all the world and then Christ will come (See Matt. 24:14) is not a visible literal kingdom, but a kingdom that is to grow WITHIN a person.
It is the cleansing, gospel of grace that transforms a person into a child of God - a citizen of the heavenly kingdom.



Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God comes not with observation:
17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
17:22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when you shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.
17:23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after [them], nor follow [them].
17:24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.



Notice several things in the passage above

1) The kingdom is not by observation -- in other words don't look for a literal kingdom here on earth prior to Christ's coming. The kingdom now is one that is to be in us -- a kingdom of grace that cleanses the soul.

2) Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Yet the messages we here in many variations and forms is -- Lo here! Lo there! It is focused on a place as God's kingdom on earth.
But the kingdom prior to Christ's coming is not in any place -- it is to be within us.

3) See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.
Do not follow anyone to old Jerusalem (or any other place) seeking a kingdom there.
Till Christ comes the only righteous kingdom that is growing is the kingdom of grace, redemption and cleansing of the soul temple -- one that is to be within you.

Dedication, I marvel at the amount of time you spend studying the Bible. What a blessing. Thank you for sharing. May God continue to bless as you dig deeper, ever deeper.

Upon study of the pre-mill report 2, let us compare this report with our report. Dedication has put verses from scripture that appear to point out -no pre-mil kingdom but she has ignored many counter verses that show, without any conditions, the Lord "will" and "shall" do what His word says.

It is very important to let us keep Inspiration here in studying the Scriptures --

"The language of the Bible should be explained according to it's obvious meaning, unless a symbol or figure is employed. Christ has given the promise: "If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine." John 7:17. if men would but take the Bible as it reads, if there were no false teachers to mislead and confuse their minds, a work would be accomplished that would make angels glad and that would bring into the fold of Christ thousands upon thousands who are now wandering in error." (GC, p.598-599)

Let us look at what Dedication has reported. Notice that she makes a determination that Isaiah 14:13,14 indicates Satan will set up a kingdom based in the Holy Land. She uses this as foundation for her private interpretation of showing something is not supported by Scripture nor SOP.

Ded- Satan’s aim is to establish a kingdom where he is worshipped as the true god.

Isaiah 14:13,14 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

In these verses we are introduced to what bible scholars call the five “I wills” that Satan uses to describe his counterfeit kingdom:
1. I will ascend to the heavens.
2. I will raise my throne above the stars of God.
3. I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, in the sides of the North.
4. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds.
5. I will make myself like the Most High.

The sentence we will look at is #3
His aim is to be enthroned on the mount of assembly, in the sides of the North.

The Bible speaks of the Sides of the North as being a holy realm, Mount Zion.

Psalms 48:2 “Beautiful in elevation, The joy of the whole earth, Is Mount Zion on the sides of the north, The city of the great King.”

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Pay careful attention how she has to group together unrelated passages to make her private interpretations!

Now, let us look at what Inspiration says about our subject verse --

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.”(Isaiah 14:13, 14)


"Among the inhabitants of heaven, Satan, next to Christ, was at one time most honored of God, and highest in power and glory. Before his fall, Lucifer, “son of the morning,” was first of the covering cherubs, holy and undefiled. He stood in the presence of the great Creator, and the ceaseless beams of glory enshrouding the eternal God rested upon him.

Little by little, Lucifer came to indulge the desire for self-exaltation. Because of the exaltation of Christ, the One equal with the Father, he allowed jealousy to arise in his heart.
“Why,” he questioned, “should Christ have the supremacy? Why is he honored above Lucifer?”

Tho all his glory was from God, Lucifer came to regard it as pertaining to himself. Not content with his position, tho honored above the heavenly host, he ventured to covet homage due alone to the Creator. Leaving his place in the immediate presence of the Father, he went forth to diffuse the spirit of discontent among the angels.

He worked with mysterious secrecy, and for a time concealed his real purpose under an appearance of reverence for God. He began to insinuate doubts concerning the laws that governed heavenly beings,—laws that he declared were arbitrary, detrimental to the interests of the heavenly universe, and in need of change. Vital interests were at stake.

Would Lucifer succeed in undermining confidence in God’s law? Would he make so apparent these supposed defects in the law, that the inhabitants of the heavenly universe would be justified in claiming that the law could be improved?

By his rebellion against God’s law, Satan brought sin into existence; for “sin is the transgression of the law.”
God in His wisdom did not use measures of force to suppress Satan’s rebellion. Such measures would have aroused sympathy for Satan, strengthening his rebellion rather than lessening his power.

If God had at the outset punished his rebellion, many more would have looked upon him as one who had been dealt with unjustly, and would have followed his example. It was necessary for him to have time and opportunity to develop his false principles. There was war in heaven, and the Prince of life overcame the apostate.

Satan was cast out of heaven, with the angels who had united with him. In the beginning God placed man under law, as an indispensable condition of his very existence. He was a subject of the divine government, and there can be no government without law.

The tree of knowledge, which stood near the tree of life in the midst of the garden of Eden, was to be a test of the obedience, faith and love of our first parents. While permitted to eat freely of every other tree, they were forbidden to taste of this, on pain of death.

They were also to be exposed to the temptations of Satan; but if they endured the trial, they would finally be placed beyond his power, to enjoy perpetual favor with God.

On this earth Satan sought to carry forward the work that he began in heaven. He declared that man could not obey the law of God. Approaching our first parents while they were on trial in the garden of Eden, he succeeded by falsehood and misrepresentation in turning them from allegiance to God’s law.

Through their failure to resist temptation, they were brought under Satan’s jurisdiction. Thus the enemy gained supremacy over the human race." (Signs of the Times, July 23, 1902)


What we see here is that Inspiration describes this verse as applying to the past, in the ancient times, when Satan desired to "exalt my throne above the stars of God". No where does Inspiration even touch on an application of this pertaining to Satan's attempt to establish a kingdom in Israel."
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[u]"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."(2 Peter 1:20)[/u]

Now let us look at what Inspiration says again concerning our key reference here--

".. Satan is spoken to in an address to the king of Babylon: “How art thou fallen from heaven O, Lucifer, son of the morning! [Margin, “day-star.”] How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High.”

"Who is this that has fallen from heaven? Jesus uses the same words in Luke 10:18: “And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” Isaiah says: “How art thou fallen from heaven O Lucifer!” It is evident that they both refer to the same person. That person Jesus calls Satan.

This, then, was the original condition of Satan, this the exalted position which he once occupied, high and glorious, near the throne of God. The Lord created him, and placed him there. He was wise, beautiful, holy, and happy.

Alas, that sin should come in, to destroy such a character! Alas, that rebellion should blot so fair a universe! But so it was. Even while we are contemplating this picture, the scene is changed, oh, how changed! Evil thoughts brood in Lucifer’s mind. A dark cloud is gathering. Whispers of discontent are heard, insubordination is talked, till at length, O woful day! rebellion, dark, deep, wicked rebellion, bursts upon the astonished inhabitants of heaven.

And since the day that iniquity entered his heart, and he set himself in opposition to God, he has left no wile untried to lead others to follow him in the way of rebellion. No one has been free from his assaults, no one so exalted in position, no one so wise and gifted, but Satan has endeavored to lead him astray.

How necessary the exhortation of the Saviour, to watch and pray lest we enter into temptation. How timely the admonition of the servant of God, “Let him that thinketh he standeth, take heed lest he fall.” (Angels, page 59-60)

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Here again our subject reference is discussed in the light that it concerned the time of Satan, in heaven , when he declared in his heart that he was to be exalted.

So please keep in mind that once a report like Dedications shows a blatant error, subscribing God's true intent of a Scripture, to a private interpretation, then we can be sure, other places in this report will likely not add up as well. Be careful!

She is attempting to fight God's plan of His pre-mil kingdom ,by promoting a false idea of the end times in the Holy Land as clearly said by Scripture. All we are asked is to weigh it all out and then decide.

I am always open to hearing truth as expounded by my brothers and sister BUT if one attempts to make a truth not backed by Inspiration, as Dedication does here, we must not fall for it.

If she has a real reference showing that Satan will establish a kingdom in Israel in the last days show us, but don't try and use Isaiah 14:13, 14 as one of your foundations to establish your idea.

By the way Daniel 11:45 has nothing to do with Satan establishing his kingdom in Israel in the period of the Loud Cry. This is another study in itself.

As far as I'm concerned Houteff gives his "private interpretation" of both scripture and EGW.


Also notice how emphatic the SR are when they THINK a quote from EGW proves their point, yet how they will push her aside and cry "Bible only" or "she didn't know" when quotes are brought forth that show they are NOT teaching the same understanding of scripture as EGW presents.

SATAN'S AMBITIONS STATED IN ISAIAH 14

What is even more surprising, it seems GLL is denying that Satan's aim is to be worshipped as God by the human race?
Does he think Satan ONLY wanted that kind of worship and exaltation while still in heaven?

Isn't it a "private interpretation" to LIMIT the text in Isaiah 14, concerning Satan's ambitions, to what happened in heaven?
After all, EGW isn't giving an exegesis on the text in the passages quoted, she is presenting events which took place in heaven which started the whole sin mess.

What happened in heaven was only the beginning of Satan's deviations into trying to usurp God's position and be a law unto himself, and gather the worship of the angels unto himself.
And he won't give up until the fire devours him.

Satan's whole aim is STILL to receive the worship due only to God --

" He (Satan) considered that to be the god of this world was the next best thing to gaining possession of the throne of God in heaven."(EGW in Review and Herald, Apr. 14, 1896).

That's what the whole "counterfeit religion" is all about. Setting up a pope who claims some kind of equality with God, and thinks this gives him the right to change God's law.

Who is behind all that?

Remember Revelation 13
13:4 And they worshipped the dragon (Satan) which gave power unto the beast (counterfeit worship system) and they worshipped the beast.


Go to Revelation 13 and 14 and count how many times the word "worship" is used.

Indeed -- the dragon seeks the worship that is due ONLY TO GOD.



SPIRITUALISM LEADING PEOPLE IN THE LAST DAYS

As noted in the quote above:
"As the second appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ draws near, satanic agencies are moved from beneath. Not only will Satan appear as a human being, but he will personate Jesus Christ"

Shepherd Rod followers believe that many dead will be resurrected to help give the "loud cry".

Now we believe in a special resurrection (Daniel 12:2) But that resurrection takes place during the seventh plague, after probation has closed and Christ has left the sanctuary. (see GC 637)

"All who have died in the faith of the third angel's message come forth from the tomb glorified, to hear God's covenant of peace." GC 637

Notice ALL who have died in the faith of the third angel's message come forth [b]AT THAT TIME.

But SR believers have some coming up long before that and leading the people to Palestine.
Who will be leading people to Palestine?



Not Christ's followers -- they know that anyone saying -- the kingdom is over there, or see the kingdom over here, are all wrong.
The only righteous kingdom growing on earth NOW is the kingdom of grace in the hearts and lives of God's people.





Yes, people desire a literal "kingdom" on earth, but Christ says,
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom.

They want a "Barabbas" to rule over them.
Barabbas was a counterfeit "messiah" working to free Israel from the Romans.
And in the last days people will again choose a Barabbas to bring in a counterfeit kingdom, instead of waiting for Christ to come and take them to the TRUE glorious kingdom that will last forever.

Daniel 11:45
Tells us the king of the North (The papal led confederacy) shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain.

But his kingdom shall come to it's end.

Why?

Michael stands up --
What happens when Michael (Christ) stands up?



The above quote is speaking against the doctrine of the earthly millennium kingdom, but the concepts apply to ANY teaching that pushes the "loud cry" or converting of the nations, to a time of a supposed literal kingdom of righteousness.


When Christ STANDS UP, probation is finished, and the plagues are poured out.


THE COUNTERFEIT KINGDOM is planted with headquarters in Palestine -- this is done to deceive the masses in the whole world into thinking it is God's kingdom, for indeed a lot of God's dealings with His people centered in the area of Palestine. And it will come after a lot of turmoil and upheaval in the world. But though it is the right place (God's New Jerusalem will one day stand there as the capital city of God) yet it is the WRONG TIME and WRONG king, and WRONG kingdom.

Even though in many ways it will SEEM to be the answer to the worlds problems, and it will SEEM to be worshipping God.

But let's look at those verses --

AT THE TIME OF THE END

11:40 And at the time of the end

We know this is speaking of the end of time, for Daniel's visions outline the progress of history from his time to the consummation. These verses are speaking of the "time of the end".

THERE WILL BE A LOT OF TURMOIL

Verses 40 -44 speak of conflict -- the king of the South pushes, the king of the North over runs the lands of the King of the South, and goes on a wild killing spree to get the world under his thumb.

This links to what we read in Revelation 13--
--that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.




11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

WHY DOES HE COME TO HIS END?

12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which stands for the children of thy people:

PROBATION CLOSES

and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time:

THE SEVEN LAST PLAGUES ARE POURED OUT ON THIS COUNTERFEIT KINGDOM.
Rev. 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
16:11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

BUT GOD'S PEOPLE ARE DELIVERED, THEY DO NOT RECEIVE THE PLAGUES

and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Rev. 18 Come out of Babylon, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

DURING THE LAST PLAGUE THERE IS A SPECIAL RESURRECTION
"All who have died in the faith of the third angel's message come forth from the tomb glorified to hear God's covenant of peace with those who have kept His law." GC 637


12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.

GOD HONORS HIS "STARS" who have stood for truth and been His witnesses.



"They also which pierced Him" (Revelation 1:7), those that mocked and derided Christ's dying agonies, and the most violent opposers of His truth and His people, are raised to behold Him in His glory, and to see the honor placed upon the loyal and obedient.--GC 637

Those who weren't deceived by the counterfeit kingdom --


12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.



This is a work we are to do NOW,
don't wait for some elusive kingdom

The "temporal kingdom" idea is really no different than the "millennium kingdom" idea -- as both think the nations will be converted from some "righteous literal, geographical kingdom" that first needs to be established.

There' plenty of inspired writings warning against that.

If we want to "shine as the stars" forever -- we need to shine for Christ NOW.

Ded- What is even more surprising, it seems GLL is denying that Satan's aim is to be worshipped as God by the human race?
Does he think Satan ONLY wanted that kind of worship and exaltation while still in heaven?

LOL, nice try. gotta do better than this.

Ded- Isn't it a "private interpretation" to LIMIT the text in Isaiah 14, concerning Satan's ambitions, to what happened in heaven?

Private interpretation is what you are doing. Taking Isaiah 14 and using it to promote a "private "idea that it supports Satan's idea to establish a kingdom in Israel. But make no mistake the Elijah message DOES teach that Satan shall have his false kingdom, but not based in Israel. It's you who falsely claims this!

Please take note brethren, she diverts the real issue here. That is I asked her to show just ONE Inspired writing (Scripture-SOP) to support Isaiah 14 shows that Satan will establish a kingdom "sides of the north" in Israel.

We get nothing but a runaround. If she would be honest she would admit it is "her" interpretation of Isaiah 14.

Ded-Shepherd Rod followers believe that many dead will be resurrected to help give the "loud cry".

Yes indeed, and so does SOP and Scripture. read Test, vol. 7, p.17 and Daniel 12:1-3. Again, another study in itself!

Ded- Not Christ's followers -- they know that anyone saying -- the kingdom is over there, or see the kingdom over here, are all wrong.
The only righteous kingdom growing on earth NOW is the kingdom of grace in the hearts and lives of God's people.

False. His word says much about the upcoming Theocracy. Our next study shall be more of Isaiah.

If you think Satan's counterfeit kingdom won't (as a final overwhelming deception) attempt to set up it's "headquarters" in Israel you have not been doing much research on the matter.

But first the scripture:
Where does scripture say the "side of the north" is located?

Psalms 48:2 “Beautiful in elevation, The joy of the whole earth, Is Mount Zion on the sides of the north, The city of the great King.”


You simply toss that scripture aside as "being unrelated". However, is it unrelated?
This is what the Israelites sang as they would approach Jerusalem to engage in their festivals. (see PP 539)
They saw it as referring to Jerusalem.

Satan says:
Is. 14:13 I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Yes, in heaven he aspired to sit on the heavenly Mt. Zion, in the "heavenly sides of the north".

But -- as I quoted:
" He considered that to be the god of this world was the next best thing to gaining possession of the throne of God in heaven. In a large measure he has been successful in his plans. When Jesus was on earth Satan led the people to reject the Son of God and to choose Barabbas, who in character represented Satan, the god of this world. {CTr 274.3}

"..Barabbas, who was under sentence of death. This man had claimed to be the Messiah. He claimed authority to establish a different order of things, to set the world right. ... He had done wonderful things through satanic agencies, he had gained a following among the people, and had excited sedition against the Roman government." DA 733

Some even say his name was Jesus Barabbas which means "son of the father". Whether Jesus was his first name I don't know , but the point still is clear that Barabbas was a COUNTERFEIT Messiah, who was bent on establishing an earthly kingdom in Jerusalem. Those who chose him instead of Christ, whose kingdom is not of this present world, lost out on the "kingdom" of eternity.

The same will be in the end --
A counterfeit king, a counterfeit kingdom, and to make it seem like the real thing, it will be in what the Bible describes as the "sides of the north" "between the seas on the glorious mountain". (The right place, at the WRONG TIME)

Daniel 11 is an historical account of literal kings and places. Persian kings, Alexander the Great, the Seleucid and Ptolemy kings, the Romans, the Papacy and all their wars etc.
Thus it only makes sense that the last verses are also literal wars. The king of the North is the Papal confederacy.

And the counterfeit kingdom plants its headquarters between the seas on the glorious mountain.


No, EGW does not mention that,
Nor does she teach any theocracy in Jerusalem.
BUT
she does tell us that JERUSALEM will never be rebuilt.

"Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error of believing that it is their duty to go to Old Jerusalem, and think they have a work to do there before the Lord comes. Such a view is calculated to take the mind and interest from the present work of the Lord, under the message of the third angel" EW 75


Again that is swept aside as saying she was talking about the Zionist movement -
But that would be saying she is a false prophet -- for the Zionist movement is rebuilding Jerusalem.

Or it is swept aside as if she is saying don't both to try and convert the Jews. But that is in direct opposition to much she has written that "The Jews are to be a power to labor for" RH June 29, 1905

No -- she warns -- don't think you need to go to Jerusalem thinking you have a work to do there before the Lord comes.
The situation WAS not "unconverted Zionists" the situation was a call to Adventists to go to Jerusalem and start building up a remnant of both converted Jews and Adventists to welcome Jesus to His capital.

She calls it "a great error"
James White calls it "heresy"

Why would they use such strong language?

The Bible also warns --
Speaking of the kingdom. When people say "over there, or "here" DON'T believe it, don't go. (see Luke 17:20-24)

As the light shines through the darkness we see what the plans are. There is absolutely no denying that the masses are being programmed (by the spirits of the dragon, beast and false prophet) to look to old Jerusalem for a "new peaceful" kingdom which is to come following some turmoil.

Houteff's voice is only one of the many voices leading the masses to old Jerusalem -- a special one tailored to gather in Adventists into that counterfeit kingdom.