For sure -- we MUST study scripture for ourselves, seeking the guidance of God's Holy Spirit to lead us into all truth.

If we don't we will end up being deceived for:

Matt. 24:11 many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Matt. 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.


Mark 13:21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here [is] Christ; or, lo, [he is] there; believe him not:
13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.


Luke 17:20 The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
17:22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see [it].
17:23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after [them], nor follow [them].
17:24 For as the lightning, that lightens out of the one part under heaven, shines unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

Hebrew 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem,

Rev21:1 I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
. 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, [and be] their God.
21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Is the above truth???
Is it true that---
"People like Dedication, are who the Lord warns about because they frequently go directly into the trees, (remember the trees in Zech. 4 symbolize the scriptures) bypassing the Two Pipes,
(who GLL says refer to Houteff, and EGW -- however dedication has been told quite a number of times she must not quote EGW when EGW's statement when it was apparent those statements did not agree with Houteff's interpretations)
who are the only authorized messengers to do this. In the final analysis he is saying only Houteff is authorized to tell us what scriptures mean).
Let us be careful, God has stopped winking at the Cross. (The cross has nothing to do with Houteff being the ultimate interpreter of truth; the cross opened the door of salvation for him, the same as for every other person -- drawing us to Christ.


The theme of that passage in Zechariah is "not by might nor by power but by my Spirit says the Lord".

The TWO tubes from the two trees that draw out the oil from the scriptures, converting the words into the "oil of the spirit" represent Christ and the Holy Spirit -- they alone can take the words of scripture and bring them to life in the hearts and minds of men and women.

The human beings, those who share God's truths as well as those who seek truth for their own souls, must draw their truths from this DIVINE bowl of truth in which the words of scripture are empowered and given life saving meaning by the Holy Spirit.

Let us be careful, God has stopped winking at the Cross.

Oh - has God's character changed? Nope. What did the cross show?

John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

John 14:9 Jesus said to him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet have you not known me, Philip? he that has seen me has seen the Father; and how say you then, Show us the Father?

John 16:25-27 These things have I spoken to you in proverbs: but the time comes, when I shall no more speak to you in proverbs, but I shall show you plainly of the Father. 26 At that day you shall ask in my name: and I say not to you, that I will pray the Father for you: 27 For the Father himself loves you, because you have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

APL- Oh - has God's character changed? Nope. What did the cross show?

Yes,and amen to those Inspired words of God you quoted.

However, we must balance those with such as--

"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries."(Hebrews 10:26-27)

His sacrifice is ultimate, and we convert totally in return. Which absolutely means to stay away from "private interpretation" as well.

Ded-The theme of that passage in Zechariah is "not by might nor by power but by my Spirit says the Lord".

You are making up your own ideas again. This is not the theme. The lesson is to show that God's Inspired Interpreters are the ONLY ones allowed to go into the trees to pull out revealed "truth". Such private interpreters (as yourself) are forbidden, as per the symbolic lesson.

Furthermore, you have already been exposed as a "PI" such as Isaiah 14:13-14 indicating support for Satan to establish his kingdom in Israel during the Loud Cry. And Isaiah 2:2-4 having, among other things, a application in the new earth period.

All we asked is for INSPIRED references to back up your interpretations. You try and pull out this quote and that quote yet show no direct Inspirational support addressing those quotes meaning what you apply them to.

Spinning and twisting "may" fool a few but not Truth seekers.

Now my question to you is--does this pictorial vision show an accurate description of Zech.4? (drawn by brother Houteff by the way) If not let's see a better drawing from you. Zech. 4 Picture

The problem arises -- whose interpretation is "private" and whose is "inspired" FOR

Matt. 24:11 many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Matt. 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.


As to Christ's kingdom in our present world -- it is the kingdom of Grace that works within the believers: it is not to be looked for in ANY geographical place.

Luke 17:20 The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
17:22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see [it].
17:23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after [them], nor follow [them].
17:24 For as the lightning, that lightens out of the one part under heaven, shines unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

If anyone says a visible kingdom is here or there, DO NOT GO, DO NOT FOLLOW THEM.

When Christ comes in glory as King of kings all will see it.

Ded- The problem arises -- whose interpretation is "private" and whose is "inspired"

"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." (Isaiah 8:20)

And when we see people project end time events without Inspired references to back it up--it's private.

Furthermore, when they are shown their mistake and pridefully ignore correction and don't admit they have any applicable Inspired references, then the following applies--

"I have been shown that the greatest reason why the people of God are now found in this state of spiritual blindness is that they will not receive correction. Many have despised the reproofs and warnings given them."(Testimonies, vol. 3, p.255)

Now my question to you is--does this pictorial vision show an accurate description of Zech.4? (drawn by brother Houteff by the way) If not let's see a better drawing from you. Zech. 4 Picture

Forbidden by Houteff maybe, but not by God.
He invites everyone who thirsts to come to the water, and partake of His Word with the aid of His Holy Spirit.
No human has the authority to set themselves up as the sole interpreter of scripture.

I quoted the theme of the chapter straight from the chapter itself,
you put your own words and interpretation on this passage.


Zehariah 4:4 So I answered and spoke to the angel that talked with me, saying, What are these, my lord?
4:5 Then the angel that talked with me answered and said unto me, Don't you know what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
4:6 Then he answered and spoke to me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.


Zechariah asks what it means
The angel answers -- not by might nor by power but by my Spirit, says the Lord.




Turn to the Lord, open His Word, pray for His Holy Spirit, and He will lead you into all truth.
(See John 16:13)

Do I think Houteff's drawing is correct? Not really.
While below is not a drawing it tries to depict the meaning --

Think TREE on far right and far left
BOWL in middle with candlestick underneath it.
Two pipes, one from each tree dripping oil into bowl.

Actually I believe Christ and the Holy Spirit place the oil of truth (the oil of the spirit) in the bowl of living truth, from both trees.