Blessings James Peterson, Daniel 11:2 starts talking about Medo-Persia, then Greece and then to Rome. A lot of years have passed between 11:2 and 11:40. Can you explain how you arrived at Syria as the king of the north?

But the temporal win of the king of the North will not last long.

This is why I say it is extremely important as to when we look at this map! These days is the wrong time to look at this map.

And if you pay close attention to the northern kingdom, you will see Babylon in it. Babylon is the King of the North. The Bible is clear about Babylon in the Book of Peter and Revelation. You will find Babylon in the Prophecies of Daniel as well, including Daniel 11 in the King of the North.

As best as I can tell, it seems to depend on when, or what time in history, you look at a map of Europe! Do we look at the map of Europe after the fall of Medo-Persia and the death of Alexander the Great?!? Or do we look at the map at about the eighth century AD?!? The map looks differently at different times in history, so at what time in history do we look at this map? I still believe it is after the death of Alexander.

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dedication wrote;

"It is simple -- just follow the narrative of the prophecy itself.
What happened from verses 24 onward all has to do with Christianity, which spread into Europe and Asia Minor, northern Africa including Egypt and westward. During the 1260 years the true Christians were caught in the middle of Roman Christianity and Muslims.
Rome was the "new Babylon"."

But, the kings of the north and south had long been identified by verse 24...correct?
You seem to avoid verses 3-6 and how those kings were identified back at that time.

So let's make an historical time line of the
"Kings" in Daniel 11.
It does not begin Babylon.


verses 1-2 Mentions the last kings of Persia before they are conquered by the Greeks.

verse 3 The rise of Alexander who conquers vast territories for his Greek empire. 336–323 Before Christ.

verse 4 Alexander's empire is then divided into four parts (two fighting over Palestine)

verses 5-13 Seleucids (king of north) Ptolemies in Egypt (king of South)
Fighting against each other, with Israel in the middle.

verses 14-18 Rise of Romans who eventually subdue both kings, and rule entire area of both kings.
vs 16 Roman consel Pompey conquers Jerusalem in 63 B.C., vs 18-19 deals with Julius Caesar

verse 20 NOW REACHING THE TIME OF CHRIST
The powerful emperor Caesar Augustus rules with absolute power. Orders taxes at the time of Jesus Birth.

22 Deals with the Romans destructing Jerusalem as well as crucifying the Prince of the Covenant - Jesus.

WE NOW ARE IN THE CHRISTIAN ERA (AFTER CHRIST'S RETURN TO HEAVEN -- JERUSALEM IS DESTROYED

verse 23 Rome makes a league with Christians in 312 AD and the papacy begins to be groomed for power

IN CEASAR AUGUSTUS DAY THERE WAS NOT KING OF THE SOUTH.
ROME CONTROLLED THE WHOLE AREA,
BUT....

verse 25 There is a king of the South once again -- marking a great loss to Roman power over all the territory. And what territory did the Roman empire loose?

They did NOT loose the "new Babylon" which is Rome. Roman Christianity remains the king of the NORTH.
But Roman Empire lost Egypt -- they lost all their territories in Africa (south of the Mediterranean) and most of Spain. Islam conquered lands from India, the Middle east, across Africa and up into Spain. All in a matter of about 60 years from 637 - 711. They were stopped by Charles Martel when tried to advance into France.

The whole 1250 years were filled with battles between the

Roman Christians Muslims
And indeed God's true believers were caught in the middle.

Verse 28 Roman Christian world alternates between fighting the Muslims and fighting against God's covenant keeping people.
(By the way, Muslims sometimes helped Christians persecuted by the Roman church, and sometimes also killed them.)

CRUSADES

29-30 Roman Christian crusades continue to fight the king of the south but they are losing strength in these battles.

TRUE CHRISTIANS PERSECUTED

31-35 These verses deal mainly with Roman Christian assault on God's covenant and His true followers.

36-39 The "time of the end" this is not the end but a period of time from 1798 onward to the end.

There is no mention of a king of the north or south in these verses -- they both suffer a blow to their power.

Another power arises, the beast from the bottomless pit, described in Revelation 11:7,
The beast first reared it’s head in France. Thomas Paine and others wrote extensively about this movement.
The Masonic order is dedicated to it. The United States is built on it’s principles.
After terrible scenes of it's ugliness in the French Revolution, for a time this beast from the bottomless pit, seems hidden
as Napoleon restored authoritative control back on France, and the United States, to a large extent,
embraced the principles of Protestantism. Yet masonic and humanistic principles are at work; the principles of evolution,
agnosticism, higher criticism of the Bible, and general humanistic concepts.
This power will become the most powerful military might in the world, and it will give it's power to the papacy.

In the last days the king of the north and south once again emerge.

Adventists do NOT believe the Moslems will be the perpetuators of the last day crises? That's going totally against the prophetic picture laid out by SOP.
SOP makes it clear the last day crises is caused by the united forces of apostate Christianity under the leadership of the papacy.

However, seeing the Muslims as the ones that PUSH the king of the North into taking control fits far better.

The King of the North comes to his end BECAUSE Christ stands up not before Christ stands up.