Blessings James Peterson,

Remember that Peter called Rome Babylon long after Babylon was desolate.

From your statement it appears you follow the preterits interpretation that Daniel 11 only goes to the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD?

The preterits basically have the Seleucids and Ptolemaics fighting through most of the prophecy of Daniel 11 and don't see "the prince of the covenant" in verse 24 as being Christ but just one of the high priests.

A large part of the verses are supposedly ascribed to Antiochus Epiphanies one of the Seleucid kings. Is that what you believe?

The comment is on the right track -- but the bulk of it is still future, the twin towers and resultant wars were just a minor foretaste, but things are shaping up very quickly.

I don't think the King of the North is NATO --
The king of the North is Roman Christianity -- a “Church Universal” or one-world church, in the making. This is what all the prophecies point to. It's not so much about political battles, but it is about real battles that are based on religion that will end in the whole world worshipping "the beast".

And that beast is Roman Christianity with political power.

The process is now underway!

We hear of "United Religions" which is meant to be for religions what the UN is for nations. Its purpose is to be the world religious authority, “a UN for religion” in order to foster peace. There was actually a charter-writing summit in 1997 to get the “movement" underway.

Sept. 4, 2014 The former president of the Republic of Israel, Shimon Peres, met with Pope Francis.
His proposal was to create a UN of religions.
“The UN has run its course, what we need is an Organisation of United Religions, a UN of religions,” Peres said in his interview with the Pope. This would be the best way to fight against these terrorists who kill in the name of faith, because the majority of people are not like them, they practice their religion without killing anyone, without this thought ever crossing their minds.”

Peres suggests that Pope Francis to lead the proposed UN of religions:

“When I look around me I notice one thing: perhaps for the first time in history the Holy Father is a leader who has the respect of many people as well as the most diverse religions and their representatives. Indeed, he may actually be the only leader they really respect. Hence the idea I proposed to Francis.”


March 13, 2015
"In an unusually blunt endorsement of military action, the Vatican’s top diplomat at the United Nations in Geneva has called for a coordinated international force to stop the “so-called Islamic State” in Syria and Iraq from further assaults on Christians and other minority groups.

The statement has drawn almost 70 nations as signatories, including the United States.

The south is pushing
BUT radical Islam will come to an end THROUGH MILITARY MIGHT, (the military might described in Daniel 11:41-44) It won't just come to an end because no one helps.

And don't think Turkey or the Muslims religion will come to an end -- it will be subdued and many of the countries will "follow at the heels" (apparently unite with) the Roman United Christianity.

The Roman Religious union ON THE OTHER HAND, will come to its end because the "river" of human support will dry up.


People will herald the Roman Christian union as the great "savior" from the terrorists. This helps him establish himself as the WORLD leader of religion --
It will seem like a great and wonderful thing (for a little while).
Those who oppose it will be accused of being in cahoots with the radicals and persecuted and even killed.

But we have the prophecy there in Daniel that HE WILL COME TO HIS END.

Prophets often give the conclusion before adding the details.
Thus giving HOPE not give up and fall for the counterfeit, but to cling to the hope that Christ will deliver His people.



The King of the North will come to his end because his supposed "solution" will result in a time of terrible trouble, not in the promised peace --
Instead of bringing the hoped for peace to the world, this papal led United Religions will bring on trouble such as never was.

And he comes to his end because his support dries up (that's what is meant by the river Euphrates drying up). And Christ stands up to deliver his people.

dedication wrote;

"The king of the North is Roman Christianity"

I believe 2 Kings 17:24 is a type of what will happen in Daniel 11:40-45. Babylon planting itself in Israel. Just a thought.

Again you err, knowing neither the scriptures nor the historical record.

Peter spoke of the Church in Babylon in Mesopotamia, writing from there himself by the hand of Silvanus. He said, "By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand. The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son." (1 Pet. 5:12-13)

This was the Church that sprung up from the dispersion after the day of Pentecost when Peter stood up and addressed the crowd that had gathered about. "And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God." (Acts 2:5-11)

Further, Josephus mentions the city and the Jews dwelling there saying, "SO king Herod immediately took the high priesthood away from Ananelus, who, as we said before, was not of this country, but one of those Jews that had been carried captive beyond Euphrates; for there were not a few ten thousands of this people that had been carried captives, and dwelt about Babylonia, whence Ananelus came. He was one of the stock of the high priests and had been of old a particular friend of Herod; and when he was first made king ..." (Antiquities of the Jews, Book 15, Chapter 3.1)

The Roman Catholics have always tried to INTERPRET Peter's plain word to mean Rome, since they crave his grave as if it were some invaluable treasure. Are you sympathetic to their cause?

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The Holy Mountain of God in the book of Daniel is the old city of Jerusalem. Daniel himself says so. In earnest prayer, he cries out saying, "O Lord, according to all thy righteousness, I beseech thee, let thine anger and thy fury be turned away from thy city Jerusalem, THY HOLY MOUNTAIN: because for our sins, and for the iniquities of our fathers, Jerusalem and thy people are become a reproach to all that are about us." (Dan. 9:16)

The time of the end is its fall in 70 AD. Jesus spoke of the period ("and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time", Dan. 12:1). His word is recorded in Mat. 24:21, "For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be."

Why do SDA run around blindly, frantically reading things that do not profit, adding false idea upon false idea ... when the clear word of God speaks so eloquently and simply concerning these matters?

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James Peterson wrote;

"Peter spoke of the Church in Babylon in Mesopotamia, writing from there himself by the hand of Silvanus. He said, "By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand. The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son." (1 Pet. 5:12-13)"

Blessings James,

You didn't seem to read what I wrote. Babylon didn't exist at the time of Peter. Peter could not have been speaking literally.

See my post #174475 just above. And by the way, are you sympathetic to the Catholic cause? They are the ones who have perpetuated the idea that Peter must have been speaking figuratively since they have the bones in Rome to prove it.

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History repeats.











As I currently read prophecy, when the Supreme Court declares independence from God by implementing an abomination as the law of the land, it will declare independence from God June 2015. Shortly after wickedness is declared to be the law of the land, God will remove His special protection that has preserved America through the centuries. Iran (the king of the South will attack the US fleet in the Gulf) and President Obama (the king of the North) will do exploits against the Covenant (beginning with America's Constitution). And prophecy will be fulfilled in its time in a way that was not expected by those who should have been watching and preparing.

Tsk, tsk. Have you not learned anything against making predictions?

This month. June. Within the next week and half. Sounds like something that can be determined to be true or not. But is it? Will you waffle out of it? How can we determine if it's true or not?

By the way, I do believe it could be stated that our constitution declares our independence from God.