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Re: Why have we allowed strange music and noise and dancing in our worship?
[Re: Rick H]
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11/15/15 07:21 PM
11/15/15 07:21 PM
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Yeap. It was special event but yes. Flame on the screen sparks falling and fog. Like a rock concert. And just like all the fallen SDA churches it was CONCERT. No one in the audience participated except by putting their hands in the air.
EVERY SDA CHURCH WHO HAS TAKEN AWAY THE HYMNAL IS FALLEN! They don't even bother putting the words of the secularized "praise music" on the screen any more so no one who doesn't listen to contemporary christian music on the radio would have no clue what the words are. And man some of those lyrics... whoa.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Why have we allowed strange music and noise and dancing in our worship?
[Re: Rick H]
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11/16/15 08:50 AM
11/16/15 08:50 AM
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Amazing!
Yet another sign spoken of by Sister White, that is to occur just before the close of Probation. If I was a pilot doing my preflight checklist, I would say, "it's time to take off"!
People get ready...
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: Why have we allowed strange music and noise and dancing in our worship?
[Re: Rick H]
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11/16/15 06:12 PM
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In the 60's and 80's there was a floor of half converted people coming from other churches with major baggage. They brought that into our church and influenced those who had been raised in the church with objections to having the Spirit of Prophecy "shoved down their throats" to speak against what they know is written.
I am amazed how even when you can totally prove any point directly from the Spirit of Prophecy or scripture (women eldership and ordination, drums, homosexuality etc) that they can read the plain testimony and still argue against it. They are bewitched by worldly sentiments. Much of that is even evidenced here (Maritime) among those who profess to be witnesses.
But there is a remnant who will not succumb to their influence... but man this is surely a very lonely path until Jesus comes.
Last edited by Daryl; 11/17/15 12:40 PM. Reason: Corrected from 90's to 80's
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Why have we allowed strange music and noise and dancing in our worship?
[Re: Rick H]
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11/16/15 09:54 PM
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I don't know if some of you are exaggerating and ain't seen nothing yet.
Have you ever been to a Adventist sponsored Acrofest gymnastics event? How does that compare to what you're seeing in churches? I'd like to hear a response from each [who are] talking about how bad the music is.
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Re: Why have we allowed strange music and noise and dancing in our worship?
[Re: Rick H]
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11/17/15 03:18 AM
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I meant to say the 80's above.
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Why have we allowed strange music and noise and dancing in our worship?
[Re: Rick H]
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11/17/15 03:29 AM
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Kland; Have you ever had an SDA pastor bring Catholic priests into your church in what they called a "pastoral exchange"? Playing jazz before giving the sermon on Sabbath? With absolutely nothing you can do about it? Then get put out of the church for objecting? Didn't think so.
I could give you names if you think I'm lying. Pastor David Kobliska. It was at the Andover church the year I was married there in 2009. They sent the police to my home for objecting. They didn't even let me defend myself and my wonderful wife has not been contacted even once since we were married there with half the church body attending our wedding. What a bunch of phonies. People playing church and taking over the fundamental beliefs. Insisting no one mention the Spirit of Prophecy in the Sabbath school. (Paul Beedle)
How about a public reading of Purpose Driven Life (Spiritual formation based book from Rick Warren) That was the first public outreach of the "EDGE Christian fellowship center" in Brooklyn Park after they took the SDA title completely off the church thinking it would more people in.
I could list a dozen such situations. ***** STAFF EDIT *****
Last edited by Daryl; 11/17/15 12:38 PM. Reason: Removed inappropriate content.
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Re: Why have we allowed strange music and noise and dancing in our worship?
[Re: kland]
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11/17/15 09:10 AM
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I don't know if some of you are exaggerating and ain't seen nothing yet.
Have you ever been to a Adventist sponsored Acrofest gymnastics event? How does that compare to what you're seeing in churches? I'd like to hear a response from each [who are] talking about how bad the music is. I don't have any idea about an Acrofest. Yet, the music coming into the SDA Churches is horrible. People like to say that if just one soul is saved, it is worth it. Not if it takes out 100 souls in the process!! God will work with most of these "atmospheres" to a point. Every once in a while God can pull a brand from the fire. But, it is far more likely people are being led into darkness than someone ending up saved from these kinds of events. We must keep are services reverent toward the One, True God of Israel. This is the best way to draw people to Christ.
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Re: Why have we allowed strange music and noise and dancing in our worship?
[Re: jamesonofthunder]
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11/17/15 09:30 AM
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In the 60's and 90's there was a floor of half converted people coming from other churches with major baggage. They brought that into our church and influenced those who had been raised in the church with objections to having the Spirit of Prophecy "shoved down their throats" to speak against what they know is written. Reminds me of the flood of baptized paganism that became the foundation of the Catholic church we see today. Let us pray that Seventh Day Adventism fares better...
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: Why have we allowed strange music and noise and dancing in our worship?
[Re: Alchemy]
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11/17/15 09:26 PM
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I don't know if some of you are exaggerating and ain't seen nothing yet.
Have you ever been to a Adventist sponsored Acrofest gymnastics event? How does that compare to what you're seeing in churches? I'd like to hear a response from each [who are] talking about how bad the music is. I don't have any idea about an Acrofest. Yet, the music coming into the SDA Churches is horrible. People like to say that if just one soul is saved, it is worth it. Not if it takes out 100 souls in the process!! God will work with most of these "atmospheres" to a point. Every once in a while God can pull a brand from the fire. But, it is far more likely people are being led into darkness than someone ending up saved from these kinds of events. We must keep are services reverent toward the One, True God of Israel. This is the best way to draw people to Christ. I guess what I'm trying to say is, what I had thought was bad, what you may think is bad music, is nothing. It could be considered elevator music compared to what is really happening. "Jazz" is nothing in comparison. It could be considered easy-listening. I don't know what you've experienced, but I'm just suggesting that you might be complaining about water on the doorstep when a flood has taken the rest of the house away. Not excusing music in the churches, but if Adventists think Acrofest music is fine and not outright appalled, then no wonder what's happening in the churches. Like hard core rock music at way past 90+ decibels. Where you plug your ears and it's still uncomfortably loud with not only your chest but your back vibrating.
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