Can you give an example of her writings that have been added to by the church and how you think it so?

The Church takes ALL her writings as being inspired (with the exception of some minor letters to her son). That’s not even close to canonizing her writings at all.

No it doesn’t bother me for I know it is in the Lord’s plan that most (if not all) denomination won’t change their foundation for they were blinded. That is just the way it goes when we build a house in the wilderness when we weren’t allowed to from the beginning and were said to live in a tent without foundation instead. Houses prevents us from following the Lord wherever He goes. Houses were only meant to be built when we reach the promised land, not before. Once a house(=denomination) is build on a certain foundation, most don’t want to change that foundation. It’s too costy and too much work.

When the appointed time will come and the unveiling of Jesus-Christ will be made manifest -- all these [denominational] foundations will be tested against Jesus’ foundation that He has laid. In I Cor 3:11-15 talks about the members’ works set on these [denominational] foundation will be tested. They(the members) may suffer great loss (of their works), but they themselves will be saved by fire. So I see in this, that the Lord purpose is to test the members against what they have worked upon.


In that list I didn’t mention testing all writings against the law and the testimonies. Yes, perhaps it would reduce everything to a small book like one of the writers in the Bible.

No I don’t think that will do. If the Church leadership takes up their Christian duty (which I very much doubt this will ever happen), what I think is best would be to separate what is inspired into a separate book.

Really, it’s up to the individuals to test all things (1Cor 3:11-15, Deut 13 and 18, Is 8:20). We shouldn't expect or wait for the Leadership to do this. Nor will we be spared because of their lack(1Cor 3:11-15). As Ellen and James clearly said that it is each one of us to do our Christian Duty to test all things and stand on the bible alone.

What do I think about that?

Well, I think that you mean to portray the Seventh Day Adventist Church as the Sanhedrin who persecuted the prophets, murdered the Son of God, and stoned Stephen to death.

Strange, I don't recall ever hearing about Seventh Day Adventism committing murder?



I think that in your accusation, you assign yourself the role of Stephen.

Strange, I don't recall reading that Spirit filled Stephen bore false witness by making baseless accusations of murder against Christians?


Strange, I don't recall ever reading about the godly man, Stephen mocking people?

James Peterson said: "God's remnant church is the SDA denomination? lol"

"But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time..." Jude 1:17-18



Strange, I don't recall reading about the child of God, Stephen telling complete lies?

I forget,did you ever repent and apologize for lying to all of the members of this forum? It was a month or two ago, in September wasn't it? You do remember falsely claiming to be a Seventh Day Adventist, don't you?



Strange, I don't recall reading about our righteous brother Stephen ever hiding his affiliation with the Apostles from anyone?

I forget, did you ever step out of the shadows, into the Light of God and admit which denomination you are shilling for? Peterson, it's a rather Catholic sounding name... isn't it?

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Then say plainly that you do not consider whatever quote anyone brings up to be authentic. My point is, you cannot do anything about Ellen White where SDA are concerned, period. Speak to a Roman Catholic and you must contend with the Pope. Speak with a Mormon and you will hear about Joseph Smith spoken with great reverence. And so on .... And so on ....

If the Bible is common ground, stand on common ground. If not, then humanity and love are often common themes in religion. Let your conversation spring from that common experience.

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I view any Church units as one family of believers. In a family, members don't always agree or believe the same, but it is no reason to ex-communicate anyone. This mentality is quite RCC who doesn't realize that any Church truth & understanding is still not complete.


Interesting definition of sin you have there. I never saw that in the Bible. Isn't it a sin to disobey the Lord or act presumptuously? As I said, He never told me to leave. I have ask. Then just 2 years ago; He shown me via scriptures that He wants me to stay.


Do you think it will be mostly the leaders that will be shakened out? Don't know but I have heard so many stories(that I'm not really interested but many does like to put an emphasis on the sins of the Leadership. I rather focuss on all the good things the Lord is doing.) Nevertheless, the story below did make me think that perhaps many leaders have the mark of the beast(money)on their hands and forehead.

I got this recent news first hand from my best friend (an Adventist) who is from one of the Slavic countries and worked for the Conference of her country for lots of years before coming to Canada like 8 or so years. Anyway, she knows lots of pastors from which have been long friends to her family and she keeps in touch. Well, one of them is now a Pastor in the US in some big city in the East coast. He started to study scripture for himself and started to teach what scripture says -- meaning he started to teach things other than the 28FBs. The Conference Leaders told him "no, no", but he replied back saying "I will teach whatever message the Lord gives me", and kept on studying and changing a little his position. The congregation started studying also and many agreed. Of course some disagreed with him, but most did agree and he got them studying also for themselves. Another word they were learning to receive their teachings from the Holy Spirit.

Then the conference threatened the Pastor that he will loose his job. He said, "no problem do what you think you must do"[all quotes our my paraphrase of what my friend told me]. That went on for many months and the congregation stood by him.

You know what the conference decided to do at the end? They didn't remove him from the payroll and he can preach whatever he wants. He had a large following and perhaps the conference didn't want to loose those tithes and offering.

So that's how it seems to be by various witnesses. The leadership is ok to even pay a pastor for teaching things other than the 28FBs.

Or maybe I'm wrong and perhaps that conference is changing their position themself. I do hope that is the case and I would applaud to that. I think Ellen and James White would applaud to that also.

ProdigalOne -- we are to grow together. One shouldn't stone or cast the other out because of believing different things. Let's open the Word together and learn more about what the Lord wants to teach us. Let's not follow the RCC persecuting and ex-communicating mentality. The Lord told our Church that we are blind, so why do you pretend we can see. We are all blind and in need of the Lord's healing salve to see His glory shine.

"But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time..." Jude 1:17-18

Ah, the voice of ecumenism speaks!

I wonder who else thinks we should put aside our differences and seek common ground?



"Divisions among us, but also divisions among the communities: evangelical Christians, orthodox Christians, Catholic Christians, but why divided? We must try to bring about unity. Let me tell you something, today, before leaving home, I spent 40 minutes more or less, half an hour, with an evangelical pastor. And we prayed together, seeking unity."

Pope Francis: Catholic Online.



The Beast has his servants, even here on a site that is supposed to be a sanctuary from his blasphemous bile.

Did you ever come clean about which denomination you are shilling for James Peterson?

Elle, does your thumbs up signify agreement with the Ecumenical Movement?