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Re: Vitamin C [Re: Suzanne] #180017
03/30/16 11:17 PM
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Top Foods With More Vitamin C Than An Orange

by Raw Michelle

(NaturalNews) Without enough vitamin C, cell growth and circulatory health can be compromised (1). Vitamin C is necessary to ensure that the system develops properly and is able to function well every step of the way; however, many people may be deficient in this nutrient, which can lead to an inability for the immune system to operate at peak effectiveness (2).

Those with a vitamin C deficiency may experience a variety of symptoms ranging from fatigue and weight loss to bruising easier and having more muscle and joint aches (1).

According to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), it's recommended that adult men consume 90 mg of vitamin C daily and that adult women obtain 75 mg daily (2). The amount varies depending on age, gender and other factors such as if a person is pregnant or breastfeeding.

Foods rich in vitamin C

While an orange is likely the first food to come to mind as the go-to vitamin C source, there are other foods that top its levels of the nutrient. For example, one navel orange has about 83 mg of it, but a small papaya has 96 mg of vitamin C (3). Additionally, papaya has other health benefits including the fact that it's high in fiber and folate.

Broccoli is another food with a high vitamin C content; one serving has about 132 mg of the nutrient (3). According to The World's Healthiest Foods website, "Amongst all of the commonly consumed cruciferous vegetables, broccoli stands out as the most concentrated source of a premiere antioxidant nutrient--vitamin C (4)."

Strawberries also contain high levels of vitamin C. One serving has nearly 87 mg of it, and consumption of them has also been linked to reductions in cognitive decline (3).

Cauliflower, with nearly 128 mg of vitamin C in a head that's about 4 inches in diameter, is another source of the nutrient. The World's Healthiest Foods also touts this food as an "excellent" vitamin C source that does wonders for fighting damaging free radicals in the body and acting as an anti-inflammatory (5).

Eating these foods on a regular basis can increase vitamin C levels and boost overall health. As always, choose fresh, organic options.

Sources for this article include:

(1) http://www.fitday.com

(2) http://ods.od.nih.gov

(3) http://www.huffingtonpost.com

(4) http://www.whfoods.com

(5) http://www.whfoods.com

http://science.naturalnews.com

-Suzanne-

Re: Vitamin C [Re: Suzanne] #180020
03/31/16 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: Suzanne
Top Foods With More Vitamin C Than An Orange

by Raw Michelle

(NaturalNews) Without enough vitamin C, cell growth and circulatory health can be compromised (1). Vitamin C is necessary to ensure that the system develops properly and is able to function well every step of the way; however, many people may be deficient in this nutrient, which can lead to an inability for the immune system to operate at peak effectiveness (2).

Those with a vitamin C deficiency may experience a variety of symptoms ranging from fatigue and weight loss to bruising easier and having more muscle and joint aches (1).

According to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), it's recommended that adult men consume 90 mg of vitamin C daily and that adult women obtain 75 mg daily (2). The amount varies depending on age, gender and other factors such as if a person is pregnant or breastfeeding.

Foods rich in vitamin C

While an orange is likely the first food to come to mind as the go-to vitamin C source, there are other foods that top its levels of the nutrient. For example, one navel orange has about 83 mg of it, but a small papaya has 96 mg of vitamin C (3). Additionally, papaya has other health benefits including the fact that it's high in fiber and folate.

Broccoli is another food with a high vitamin C content; one serving has about 132 mg of the nutrient (3). According to The World's Healthiest Foods website, "Amongst all of the commonly consumed cruciferous vegetables, broccoli stands out as the most concentrated source of a premiere antioxidant nutrient--vitamin C (4)."

Strawberries also contain high levels of vitamin C. One serving has nearly 87 mg of it, and consumption of them has also been linked to reductions in cognitive decline (3).

Cauliflower, with nearly 128 mg of vitamin C in a head that's about 4 inches in diameter, is another source of the nutrient. The World's Healthiest Foods also touts this food as an "excellent" vitamin C source that does wonders for fighting damaging free radicals in the body and acting as an anti-inflammatory (5).

Eating these foods on a regular basis can increase vitamin C levels and boost overall health. As always, choose fresh, organic options.

Sources for this article include:

(1) http://www.fitday.com

(2) http://ods.od.nih.gov

(3) http://www.huffingtonpost.com

(4) http://www.whfoods.com

(5) http://www.whfoods.com

http://science.naturalnews.com

-Suzanne-


Has anyone heard that the government wants to make people get a prescription for Vitamin C?

This can't be allowed. We've got to get control of our health!

Re: Vitamin C [Re: Alchemy] #180616
05/24/16 07:10 PM
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While I agree that the government should not require prescriptions for most over-the-counter supplements, I also think that the companies that sell these products need to do a better job of educating the consumers about the potential dangers.

Vitamin C is relatively safe in relatively low doses. Higher doses can be beneficial in some conditions. For example, i recall reading some research on asthma which showed that the risk of a severe asthma attack is reduced by almost 90% if the person takes 1000 mg. per day of the vitamin. I know of cases where people have treated their seasonal allergies with just high doses of vitamin C (about 3500 mg per day) and it worked. But while 1000 mg of vitamin C is helpful for asthma, it can also be a danger as well. I have seen research which shows that asthma symptoms are directly related to the amount of a chemical made by the immune system called interferon-gamma. There is research which strongly suggests that vitamin C increases interferon-gamma in the body, which will exacerbate the asthma if you take too much. So, while 1000 mg may be helpful to asthma patients, it may not be a good idea to take a whole lot more than that.

Other potential dangers exist as well and these are things that people need to be aware of before they take vitamin C. Below is a link to a page which shows some of the problems that can happen with vitamin C intake:

http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/vitamin-c/safety/HRB-20060322

I do not suggest not to take it, but be educated about it and use it wisely.

Re: Vitamin C [Re: Suzanne] #180623
05/25/16 06:32 AM
05/25/16 06:32 AM
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Vitamin C is far SAFER than the average physician wishes the public to know. If Joe Public only knew, he might avoid that trip to the doctor's office.

There is just one precaution with Vitamin C intake: always consume it with water. As long as there is sufficient water intake along with the Vit. C, any excess of the vitamin will be excreted through the kidneys. If one is low in water, kidney stones/damage is possible.

A doctor who knows more about Vitamin C than most, and uses more natural treatments than most, once prescribed 500 mg. of Vitamin C per 15 minutes, with a glass water, as long as I was awake, to fight off the Texas A flu virus that kept a colleague down for a week on traditional medications. One day's worth of that kicked the virus for me, and I was back to business without any prescription drugs. I had taken about 10 GRAMS of Vit. C that day.

The biggest limitation with Vitamin C intake is actually the sensitivity of the stomach. Injected to the blood directly, in IV form, much higher doses are possible (and safe). For example, for a rattlesnake bite, a 60,000 mg. IV works wonders, and may be quite superior to the use of antivenin, which is also a toxin. High-dose Vitamin C IVs can also benefit cancer patients, persons with toxic chemical exposures, and sepsis.

I would encourage anyone doubting the effectiveness of truly "high-dose" Vitamin C (1000 mg./day is not actually "high") to do some research. Keep in mind that Big Pharma does not make any money off of non-prescription medications, and, therefore, wishes to stifle information regarding their effectiveness.

Goats can produce more than 13,000 milligrams of Vitamin C every day. If it were so harmful as some would like to suggest, why are they not keeling over and dying as a result? CLICK HERE for more information about this.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Vitamin C [Re: Suzanne] #180624
05/25/16 07:02 AM
05/25/16 07:02 AM
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Another interesting bit of information (just the abstract) from:

Homo sapiens ascorbicus, a biochemically corrected robust human mutant. Medical Hypotheses [Med Hypotheses] 1979 Jun; Vol. 5 (6), pp. 711-21.

Quote:
Homo sapiens' gene pool contains a defective gene for the synthesis of the active enzyme protein, L-gulonolactone oxidase(GLO). The absence of GLO in the human liver blocks the normal mammalian conversion of blood sugar into ascorbate, leading to the potentially-fatal "inborn error of carbohydrate metabolism", the genetic disease, Hypoascorbemia (in the older nomenclature- scurvy). To survive, humans need exogenous sources of daily ascorbate. Most mammals have the intact gene for GLO synthesis and produce generous daily amounts of the liver metabolite, ascorbate; for instance, an unstressed 70 Kg goat is capable of producing over 13 grams of ascorbate daily and much more under stress. The recommended dietary allowance of 45 milligrams of ascorbate a day for human adults, now proposed and used by nutritionists, is grossly inadequate to restore Homo sapiens to a normal mammalian ascorbate physiology. To correct fully this human genetic defect and banish epidemic chronic subclinical scurvy requires daily intakes of ascorbate equivalent to, at least, the amounts synthesized by the other mammals. Humans kept on a long term regime of full correction of this birth defect show great salutary benefits in health maintenance, disease therapy and slowing of the aging process. This can be regarded as the creation of a new and more robust, longer-living, tough human sub-species, Homo sapiens ascorbicus, by the biochemical reversal of a primate mutation occurring some 60 million years ago. Some of the practical benefits and pathways of future clinical research are discussed.


I think the fact that we don't produce Vitamin C naturally is largely on account of God's planned fruitarian diet for us. Animals were designed to consume vegetables, which contain less Vitamin C, generally. We still would benefit by having more fruit in our diet, and Ellen White emphasized fruit as well.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Vitamin C [Re: Suzanne] #180625
05/25/16 12:58 PM
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Quote:
Homo sapiens' gene pool contains a defective gene for the synthesis of the active enzyme protein, L-gulonolactone oxidase(GLO).
Originally Posted By: green
I think the fact that we don't produce Vitamin C naturally is largely on account of God's planned fruitarian diet for us. Animals were designed to consume vegetables, which contain less Vitamin C, generally. We still would benefit by having more fruit in our diet, and Ellen White emphasized fruit as well.
Conclusion - God designed a defective gene so we cannot make vitamin C? Could it be that because of SIN, we humans now have a defective gene so that we do not produce vitamin C? That is the more likely conclusion.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Vitamin C [Re: Suzanne] #180626
05/25/16 03:56 PM
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APL,

I don't happen to accept that the gene must necessarily be defective. You will notice the author of that article also spoke of humans' existence for millions of years. Obviously, his worldview differs fundamentally from ours. God knows what He is doing. If He had so desired, we would have the same gene other mammals have to produce Vitamin C. Since no one can prove God did or did not originally create humans with said gene, it cannot be proven that our current gene is "defective."

Why would we need to create the vitamin if everything we ate had it in high quantities?

Consider the following fruits and their Vitamin C levels per 100 gram serving (about 3.5 ounces, or less than half a cup).

Vitamin C Levels
FruitMilligrams/100 gram serving
Acerola1,677
Baobab150 to 499
Blackcurrant155 to 215
Camu Camu2,700
Guava228
Jujube500
Kakadu Plum2300 to 3150
Kiwifruit, green98
Kiwifruit, yellow120 to 180
Rosehip1,150 to 2,500


And, here's some facts to back up what I said earlier about the limitations of oral intake of Vitamin C versus the higher levels possible via IV and the impact on cancer.

Emerging research suggests that the route of vitamin C administration (intravenous vs. oral) could explain the conflicting findings [1,45,46]. Most intervention trials, including the one conducted by Moertel and colleagues, used only oral administration, whereas Cameron and colleagues used a combination of oral and intravenous (IV) administration. Oral administration of vitamin C, even of very large doses, can raise plasma vitamin C concentrations to a maximum of only 220 micromol/L, whereas IV administration can produce plasma concentrations as high as 26,000 micromol/L [46,47]. Concentrations of this magnitude are selectively cytotoxic to tumor cells in vitro [1,66]. Research in mice suggests that pharmacologic doses of IV vitamin C might show promise in treating otherwise difficult-to-treat tumors [48]. A high concentration of vitamin C may act as a pro-oxidant and generate hydrogen peroxide that has selective toxicity toward cancer cells [48-50]. Based on these findings and a few case reports of patients with advanced cancers who had remarkably long survival times following administration of high-dose IV vitamin C, some researchers support reassessment of the use of high-dose IV vitamin C as a drug to treat cancer [3,46,48,51].


Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Vitamin C [Re: Suzanne] #180627
05/25/16 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: green
I don't happen to accept that the gene must necessarily be defective. You will notice the author of that article also spoke of humans' existence for millions of years. Obviously, his worldview differs fundamentally from ours. God knows what He is doing. If He had so desired, we would have the same gene other mammals have to produce Vitamin C. Since no one can prove God did or did not originally create humans with said gene, it cannot be proven that our current gene is "defective."
How about the myriad of other genes that are clearly defective and we even know why they are defective!? Of course, what does the Bible say? Genesis 3 is telling us.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Vitamin C [Re: Suzanne] #180632
05/25/16 07:46 PM
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I never meant to suggest that one never take high dose vitamin C, but there are clear exceptions to that. Some people have conditions that will clearly rule out taking high dose vitamin C and can cause severe problems for them if they do it anyway, even with large amounts of water. But I clearly agree that there are times when most people can use it effectively in high doses. But "most" is not all. People need to know their medical conditions and be wise about it.

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