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#185849 - 01/16/18 06:48 PM Re: A Woman Now Rides the Beast [Re: Mark Shipowick]
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Mark, Edom isn't allways referenced in a negative light in the Bible.
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#185863 - 01/19/18 09:16 PM Re: A Woman Now Rides the Beast [Re: kland]
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Originally Posted By: kland
Mark, Edom isn't always referenced in a negative light in the Bible.
I agree. Parts of Edom will be saved. There is more than one prophecy that says that this will happen in the last days. Since the Edomites have been extinct as a nation for centuries and unlike the Jews have long since been assimilated, we ought to look for a spiritual and symbolic fulfillment, imo.
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#185911 - 01/25/18 07:20 PM Re: A Woman Now Rides the Beast [Re: Mark Shipowick]
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Tim Roosenberg in his presentations speaks favourably of Edom based on the following text:

Dan 11:41 ESV He shall come into the glorious land. And tens of thousands shall fall, but these shall be delivered out of his hand: Edom and Moab and the main part of the Ammonites.
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#185970 - 02/04/18 06:31 PM Re: A Woman Now Rides the Beast [Re: Daryl]
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
Tim Roosenberg in his presentations speaks favourably of Edom based on the following text:

Dan 11:41 ESV He shall come into the glorious land. And tens of thousands shall fall, but these shall be delivered out of his hand: Edom and Moab and the main part of the Ammonites.


Tim is in error in his understanding of Daniel. We corresponded and when I showed him his error, he broke off the conversation.

That is not to say that I have always been right.

Confession is good for the soul.

While studying the prophecy of Daniel,
I learned that Daniel saw 4 beasts come from the sea
But Heaven's interpretation was of the 4 kings that arise from the earth in the endtime.

The earth and sea are different according to Revelation 13
Thus the sea beasts foreshadowed the earth kings (Dan 7:17)

Their identity was Reagan, Bush I, Clinton and Bush II
I had forecast Albert (6) Arnold (6) Gore Jr. (6) to be the 4th President in that series.
BUT I was wrong...George (6) Walker (6) [PRESIDENT] Bush II (6)
gained a 666 number after his election that he did not have before it.

From my understanding at the time, I thought GW would be the last.

THEN came President Obama
I had to learn that the 4th beast was in 2 parts (Bush II & Obama)
like the Roman Empire had been in its pagan and papal phases.

By faith in my understanding of Bible prophecy at in 2016,
I had no problem declaring that President Obama was the last President identified in Bible Prophecy.
Thus I assumed that That he would find a way to linger past the duration of his term.

It was confirmed by my understanding of Revelation 13
The 7 popes from Pius XI to Benedict XVI had ruled for their prophetic hour (cf Rev 17)
The last 3 American Presidents Reagan (lion's mouth) Bush (bear's feet) and Clinton (Leopard's features)
had bonded with John-Paul II so much so that the papal beast looked like America or visa versa

From Daniel 9, the endtime command to rebuild Jerusalem was issued in 1998 by John-Paul II
And President Bush II was anointed Prince of America's Constitution as prophesied on 20 January 2001
And he did away with Christ's Sacrifice and Oblation on 20 Sept 2001
exactly in the midst of Constitution week.
Then Pope John- Paul II (the one who continued 42-months from 9-11-01) died (1290 days after the abomination was set up) as prophesied

So I understood that the power of the first beast in Rev 13 was transferred to the second beast with 2 lamblike horns
They were Bush II and Obama ... So Obama was the last American president identified in Rev 13.

To my shock, Donald Trump was elected, inaugurated and continued in office for more than a year.
I DID NOT SEE THIS COMING
There is so much Bible prophecy fulfilled and understood that this was UNIMAGINABLE.

Some have said that I will just keep on being wrong when they do not understand how right I have been
though not infallible!

They say that I will keep tweeking my studies and be wrong again.

Their prophesying is a reflection of their understanding.

I kept restudying and praying until at last the LORD has given me understanding.

When Michael stands for his people the time of trouble commences (Daniel 12:1).
Then Michael will stand for His people and it will be over! (Daniel 12:1)

I have Meticulously spelled out the study in a 440 page book that was published on February 2, 2018.
If anyone is interested send me a personal message.

The fourth angel is sounding and his voice will soon join the 3 angels' messages to make the Loud Cry.
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#185975 - 02/07/18 02:01 PM Re: A Woman Now Rides the Beast [Re: Mark Shipowick]
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Originally Posted By: His child
To my shock, Donald Trump was elected, inaugurated and continued in office for more than a year.
I DID NOT SEE THIS COMING
There is so much Bible prophecy fulfilled and understood that this was UNIMAGINABLE.

Are you now saying that Trump will be the last president of the USA???
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#185976 - 02/07/18 02:09 PM Re: A Woman Now Rides the Beast [Re: Mark Shipowick]
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Originally Posted By: His child
Tim is in error in his understanding of Daniel. We corresponded and when I showed him his error, he broke off the conversation.

What was it that you showed him?
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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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#185990 - 02/09/18 05:10 PM Re: A Woman Now Rides the Beast [Re: Daryl]
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
Originally Posted By: His child
To my shock, Donald Trump was elected, inaugurated and continued in office for more than a year.
I DID NOT SEE THIS COMING
There is so much Bible prophecy fulfilled and understood that this was UNIMAGINABLE.

Are you now saying that Trump will be the last president of the USA???
I think he was saying it didn't really count that Trump was president that this was just an "extra" type of thing.
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#186025 - 02/16/18 11:05 PM Re: A Woman Now Rides the Beast [Re: Daryl]
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
Originally Posted By: His child
To my shock, Donald Trump was elected, inaugurated and continued in office for more than a year.
I DID NOT SEE THIS COMING
There is so much Bible prophecy fulfilled and understood that this was UNIMAGINABLE.

Are you now saying that Trump will be the last president of the USA???


No As I currently understand Daniel and Revelation.

The last American President elected by the people was Barack Obama.

President Trump is the next to the last American President.

President Michael Pence will stand for his people and the little time of trouble will morph into the time of Jacob's trouble.

Then Michael shall stand for His people.

The third and fourth angels are now sounding and soon the 10 virgins will be divided according to their wise or foolish nature.
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#186026 - 02/16/18 11:11 PM Re: A Woman Now Rides the Beast [Re: kland]
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Daryl
Originally Posted By: His child
To my shock, Donald Trump was elected, inaugurated and continued in office for more than a year.
I DID NOT SEE THIS COMING
There is so much Bible prophecy fulfilled and understood that this was UNIMAGINABLE.

Are you now saying that Trump will be the last president of the USA???
I think he was saying it didn't really count that Trump was president that this was just an "extra" type of thing.


Thanks for clarifying for me.
Now that endtime elements in Daniel and Revelation have been fulfilled, the prophecies have explainied themselves.

Our labor has come to the time of childbirth, but is there strength enough for the delivery?
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#186027 - 02/16/18 11:34 PM Re: A Woman Now Rides the Beast [Re: Daryl]
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
Originally Posted By: His child
Tim is in error in his understanding of Daniel. We corresponded and when I showed him his error, he broke off the conversation.

What was it that you showed him?


Tim cannot understand how Daniel 11 flows from the 3 kings in Persia that decreed the restoration of the Temple and the Jews to the Promised Land. It ends in 1844 when Christ stood for His people to begin the Investigative judgment.

Then the history in Daniel 11 repeats at 11:6 "at the end of years" (after 1844) and chapter 11 continues until Christ comes (Michael stands to rescue His people).

Thus the king of the north in the endtime is the United States and NOT the papacy. But Tim prefers to follow Daniel 11 to verse 20 something and have a large gap until 30 something.

When the Spirit of prophecy explains that much of the history in Daniel 11 is to be repeated, it is so simple to follow Daniel 11 from 457 to 1844 and then pick up the trail and follow it from 11:6 to 12:1. It does take prayer and studying history to fill in some of the details. But some of the main landmarks are too obvious to miss.

I was called by God to study Daniel in 1997 and I have finished the study bruised and battered because I am not infallible. I called it how I understood it along the way and when new light came to me that took me beyond my current understanding I followed it and changed my mind based on that light. But the brethren have forgotten how God has led us in our past history. They want it spelled out for them without doing the research. And too many are unwilling to leave past notions when new light comes.

If the light moves and we don't follow it, we will be in darkness like those in 1844 who refused to move into the Sanctuary and accept the investigative Judgment.

Bible prophecy is like computer logic "gigo" works for both.
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