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Re: 2nd Quarter 2018 - Preparation for the End Time
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THIS THREAD IS TO STUDY THE LESSON from week to week, the subject being-- preparing for the end time ... You raise a very important point which I like. I was wondering, as the posts were made pointing to the lesson for each week, why no one ever responded. This is a forum, it is not? And a forum is a space for lively interactions: propositions, discussions and civil arguments. Learning is not achieved by going into a cave and listening to the echo of your own voice. Rather, it presumes external input from diverse sources filtered by your intelligence. And intelligence is not a trap-door, but an osmotic membrane. How intelligent are you? ///
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Re: 2nd Quarter 2018 - Preparation for the End Time
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From Monday's study:
Christ was eternal and not dependent upon anyone or anything for His existence. He was God — not the mere outward appearance of God but God Himself. His essential nature was divine and eternal. Jesus retained that divinity but became a human being in order to keep the law in human flesh and to die as a Substitute for all those who have broken the law, which is all of us (Rom. 3:23) .
Christ became human, without any advantage over other humans. He kept God’s law, not through His internal divine power but by relying upon the same external divine power available to any other human.
Jesus was fully God and fully human. This means that the One who upholds “all things by the word of his power” (Heb. 1:3) was the same One who was found as a “babe lying in a manger” (Luke 2:16). This means that the One who “is before all things, and in Him all things consist” (Col. 1:17, NKJV) is the same One who, as a human child, “increased in wisdom and stature” (Luke 2:52). This means that the One without whom “nothing was made that was made” (John 1:3, NKJV) was the same One who was “murdered by hanging on a tree” (Acts 5:30, NKJV).
If all this reveals to us Christ’s love for us, and Christ’s love for us is but a manifestation of the Father’s love for us, then no wonder we have so many reasons to rejoice and be thankful!
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Re: 2nd Quarter 2018 - Preparation for the End Time
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Christ was eternal and not dependent upon anyone or anything for His existence. He was God — not the mere outward appearance of God but God Himself. His essential nature was divine and eternal. Jesus retained that divinity but became a human being in order to keep the law in human flesh and to die as a Substitute for all those who have broken the law, which is all of us (Rom. 3:23) Of course, this is commentary of the author. "God Himself". What does this mean? His nature is that of His Father. The supporting verses given: The supporting texts before this comment are: John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (2) The same was in the beginning with God. (3) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelled among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Philippians 2:5-8 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: (6) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: (7) But made himself of no reputation, and took on him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: (8) And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient to death, even the death of the cross. Yes, Jesus is the Son of God according to John 1:14, He was equal with God according to Philippians 2:6, He has life in Himself, He is self-existent, John 5:26 For as the Father has life in himself; so has he given to the Son to have life in himself; But "God Himself" only in nature, not in personality. Quoting Ellen White (note Daryl, this is a quote): There is no one who can explain the mystery of the incarnation of Christ. Yet we know that He came to this earth and lived as a man among men. The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty, yet Christ and the Father are one. {Ms140-1903} John 3:16 For God [The FATHER] so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. He was one with his Father not as being one being, or one god, but one is purpose, goals, and Spirit just as we are to be one with God, see John 17. From Ellen White (note Daryl this is a quote) Christ came to represent the Father. We behold in him the image of the invisible God. [The FATHER] ... The Father was revealed in Christ as altogether a different being from that which Satan had represented him to be. Said Christ, "Neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him." ... Christ exalted the character of God [The FATHER], attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God [The FATHER]. In Christ was arrayed before men the paternal grace and the matchless perfections of the Father [GOD]. In his prayer just before his crucifixion, he declared, "I have manifested thy name." "I have glorified thee on the earth; I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do." When the object of his mission was attained,--the revelation of God to the world,--the Son of God announced that his work was accomplished, and that the character of the Father [GOD] was made manifest to men. {ST, January 20, 1890}
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: 2nd Quarter 2018 - Preparation for the End Time
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Makes sense to me. John 16:28: "I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father."
That verse caused me to consider that is it possible, being the first and only begotten son, it is referring to the specific incarnation of God? The condition of which is permanent and everlasting of which, such condition never existed before? (Incarnation meaning, birth by a human)
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Re: 2nd Quarter 2018 - Preparation for the End Time
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John 16:28: "I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father."
That verse caused me to consider that is it possible, being the first and only begotten son, it is referring to the specific incarnation of God? The condition of which is permanent and everlasting of which, such condition never existed before? (Incarnation meaning, birth by a human)
Interesting thought! I think it is part of a subject God's redeemed will continue to study and marvel over throughout eternity. The sequence of the verse shows Christ coming forth FROM God into the world. This definitely relates to His coming into this world through the incarnation in human flesh! Then leaving this world and returning to the Father, yet we are also told He forever retains His humanity.
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Re: 2nd Quarter 2018 - Preparation for the End Time
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TUESDAY'S LESSON That one is about the Holy Spirit. Scripture proves His personhood. Christians are baptized in His name along with the Father and Son (Matt. 28:19) . The Spirit glorifies Christ (John 16:14) . The Spirit convicts people (John 16:8) . He can be grieved (Eph. 4:30) . He is a Comforter (John 14:16) , Helper (NKJV) , Counselor (RSV) . He teaches (Luke 12:12) , intercedes (Rom. 8:26), and sanctifies (1 Pet. 1:2) . Christ said the Spirit guides people into all truth (John 16:13) .
In short, the Holy Spirit is God, as are the Father and the Son. Together, they are One God.
Everything the Spirit does reveals divine love. What are some of the things He does? Luke 12:12, John 16:8-13, Acts 13:2.
The greatest evidence that the Holy Spirit is God is the incarnation of Christ. Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit (Matt. 1:20) . Only God could “create” like that.
The Holy Spirit is able to perform two opposite miracles for Christ. First, He brought the omnipresent Christ into the womb of Mary. Christ ascended bodily to heaven in a human body, confined within that body. Second, the Spirit brings Christ confined by His humanity and, in another inexplicable miracle, makes Him present to Christians around the world.
Thus, the Holy Spirit, along with the Father and the Son, is working in our behalf. “The Godhead was stirred with pity for the race, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit gave Themselves to the working out of the plan of redemption”. — Ellen G. White, Counsels on Health, p. 222. Jesus made an interesting comment: Matt. 12: 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come.
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Re: 2nd Quarter 2018 - Preparation for the End Time
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1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
John 14:6 AKJV Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me.
Ephesians 4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as you are called in one hope of your calling; (5) One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (6) One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
There are two spirits in the world, the Spirit of Christ and the spirit of antichrist.{RH, June 10, 1890 par. 2}
We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ. {Lt66-1894}
The creation story was given for the purpose of helping us, not only understand our origin, but to help us understand the pattern of the heavenly family. Adam represents God the Father and Eve represents Jesus Christ.
From the creation story we know that Adam is the father and source of all human beings including Eve. Eve on the other hand is the mother of ALL human beings except TWO, Adam and herself.
Similarily God is the Father and source of all beings (divine or created). So God the Father is the father and source of ALL beings including Jesus (1 Corinthians 8:6; Ephesians 4:6). Jesus on the other hand is father of all beings EXCEPT TWO, God the Father and Jesus Himself.
The bible clearly teaches that Jesus is the literal Son of God. That does not make Him a lesser God just as Eve was not a lessor human being just because she came out of Adam
Deuteronomy 6:4; Matthew 8:29; Mark 12:28-34; John 17:3; Romans 3:30; 1 Corinthians 1:3; 1 Corinthians 8:6; Galatians 1:3; Ephesians 4:4-6; Philippians 1:2; Colossians 1:19; 1 Timothy 1:17; 1 Timothy 2:5; James 2:19; 1 John 1:3; Jude 1:4
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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