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Re: 3rd Quarter 2018 The Book of Acts [Re: dedication] #187064
07/13/18 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: dedication
We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ. If we commune with God, we shall have strength and grace and efficiency. {Lt66-1894}

But don't you see -- It's all three! All three are mentioned in the above. Jesus and the Father are with us through the Holy Spirit, and we commune with the Father, and with Christ, when the Holy Spirit fills our hearts and minds with divine truth.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, who comes forth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

And no -- James, I have never heard anyone say "one accord" means they pledged to all 28 Adventist beliefs.
But one thing I'm sure -- they weren't arguing over whether Jesus had descended upon them or the Holy Spirit. They only knew the Divine presence from God had come and was empowering them and they went out to tell the world about Jesus and salvation.




SDA like to say that that gathering was Seventh-day Adventist; and if SDA then subscribers to their creed: the 28 Fundamental Beliefs of the denomination.

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2018 The Book of Acts [Re: dedication] #187065
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John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, who comes forth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

"When you (we) will come under the divine guidance, the Comforter will lead you (us) into all truth. The office of the Holy Spirit is to take the things of Christ as they fall from His lips, and infuse them as living principles into the hearts opened to receive them. Then we will know both the Father and the Son.--Letter 40, 1890, pp. 10-11.

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2018 The Book of Acts [Re: dedication] #187066
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I think "of one accord" means they had given up their "who is the greatest" and their vying for position, and were united in seeking the Lord's will.

At that point they had not formulated any official "Fundamentals of Belief" or creeds. They were still in total awe as they realized what had just taken place, and the significance of those events. They still had spiritual growing to do, but their hearts were cleansed of self centered things, and they were ready to be filled with the things of God.

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2018 The Book of Acts [Re: dedication] #187067
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Originally Posted By: dedication
We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ. If we commune with God, we shall have strength and grace and efficiency. {Lt66-1894}

But don't you see -- It's all three! All three are mentioned in the above. Jesus and the Father are with us through the Holy Spirit, and we commune with the Father, and with Christ, when the Holy Spirit fills our hearts and minds with divine truth.
Ah - The Holy Spirit which is Christ equals how many beings? Not 2, but one. Don't you see it? The Father and the Son. The Spirit is not a separate being. In fact the nature of the Spirit is a mystery which has not be revealed, but the trinitarian mindset defines just what the Spirit is based on church dogma.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: 3rd Quarter 2018 The Book of Acts [Re: dedication] #187070
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Originally Posted By: dedication
We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ. If we commune with God, we shall have strength and grace and efficiency. {Lt66-1894}

But don't you see -- It's all three! All three are mentioned in the above. Jesus and the Father are with us through the Holy Spirit, and we commune with the Father, and with Christ, when the Holy Spirit fills our hearts and minds with divine truth.
Rather than quoting me with the highlighting....

Odd indefensible position you're taking.

Shall we take other things Ellen White says, "which is", to mean more than one and the same?

Hmmm....
Quote:
When, in the midst of his blind error and prejudice, Saul was given a revelation of the Christ whom he was persecuting, he was placed in direct communication with the church, which is the light of the world. In this case Ananias represents Christ, and also represents Christ's ministers upon the earth, who are appointed to act in His stead. In Christ's stead Ananias touches the eyes of Saul, that they may receive sight. In Christ's stead he places his hands upon him, and, as he prays in Christ's name, Saul receives the Holy Ghost. All is done in the name and by the authority of Christ. Christ is the fountain; the church is the channel of communication. {AA 122.4}
So here you would be saying there's the church (which is NOT the light of the world) AND the light of the world. Two things?

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2018 The Book of Acts [Re: dedication] #187071
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Acts 3:19 Repent you therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached to you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Dedication, what does the highlighted phrase mean to you in the context?

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2018 The Book of Acts [Re: APL] #187073
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Originally Posted By: APL
Ah - The Holy Spirit which is Christ equals how many beings? Not 2, but one. Don't you see it? The Father and the Son. The Spirit is not a separate being.


Really?

BT.1906-03-01.001
The Father is all the fullness of the Godhead bodily...,
The Son is all the fullness of the Godhead manifested....
the Spirit in all the fullness of the Godhead...
There are three living persons of the heavenly trio. In the name of these three powers,--the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized.


Signs of the Times, December 1, 1898 par. 2
What gift could He bestow rich enough to signalize and grace His ascension to the mediatorial throne? It must be worthy of His greatness and His royalty. He determined to give His representative, the third person of the Godhead.

RH.1904-05-19.003
Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the third person of the Godhead, who would come with no modified energy, but in the fulness of divine power.

RH.1908-11-19.006 Of the Spirit, Jesus said, "He shall glorify me." The Saviour came to glorify the Father by the demonstration of his love; so the Spirit was to glorify Christ by revealing his grace to the world.

SPTA10.025.002 (Letter 8, 1896, p. 1 (To "My Brethren in America," February 6, 1896.)
Evil had been accumulating for centuries, and could only be restrained and resisted by the mighty power of the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Godhead, who would come with no modified energy, but in the fulness of divine power.



SPTA10.037.001
The prince of the power of evil can only be held in check by the power of God in the third person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit.

Councils on Health p. 222
The Godhead was stirred with pity for the race, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit gave themselves to the working out of the plan of redemption.

Signs of Times,June 19, 1901
Our sanctification is the work of the FATHER, THE SON, and THE HOLY SPIRIT. It is the fulfilment of the covenant that God has made with those who bind themselve up with Him, to stand with Him, with His Son, and with His Spirit in holy fellowship....

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2018 The Book of Acts [Re: dedication] #187075
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Father - IS ALL THE FULLNESS...
Son - IS ALL THE FULLNESS...
Spirit - IN ALL THE FULLNESS...

The Holy Spirit recognizes and guides us into all truth. God has given His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Christ is the sinner’s Saviour. Christ’s death has redeemed the sinner. This is our only hope. If we make a full surrender of self, and practice the virtues of Christ, we shall gain the prize of eternal life. {Ms21-1906}

Now read back 3 paragraphs from this quote. (you know how to find it, Daryl might struggle) The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ, which is Christ divested of the personality of humanity (taking on the personality of the Spirit) and independent there of. It is easy to understand if you are not blinded by preconceived ideas. The Pioneers were right! Ellen White was right! And our religion has been changed.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: 3rd Quarter 2018 The Book of Acts [Re: kland] #187077
07/15/18 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Acts 3:19 Repent you therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached to you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Dedication, what does the highlighted phrase mean to you in the context?


This was part of Peter's sermon on the day of Pentecost.
Repent! What does it mean? It means more than sorrow for sin, more than confession of sin, more than forgiveness of sin, though all that is part of repentance.
Repentance means a "turn around" a change of direction in one's life. That's why it's connected to baptism which symbolizes the death to the old way, and the rebirth to new life. A true refreshing!

Only when connected to Divine power can this work of transformation in heart and mind take place. The Holy Spirit brings the presence of God the Father and of Christ to us! The wonderful plan of salvation was also part of Peter's sermon as He presented to them the crucified and risen Savior.

And as Jesus Himself, also said:
"John 3:5 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." John 3:3

That your sins may be blotted out:
The final blotting out of sins is done during the investigative judgment.
Peter says Jesus is in heaven now-- "received into heaven until the times of restitution of all things."


Jesus is in His heavenly temple, and will now accept our sacrifices, our prayers, and our confessions of faults and sins, and will pardon all the transgressions of His people, that they may be blotted out before He leaves the sanctuary.

And yes, then "he shall send Jesus Christ" at the time of restitution of all things -- the second coming!
And yes, we want to cleansed and purified, refreshed with newness of life by the Spirit, so we can meet our Savior in the air and forever be with Him!

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Re: 3rd Quarter 2018 The Book of Acts [Re: dedication] #187078
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Lesson THREE

THE EARLY CHURCH


In the first little while --

42 They continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in prayers. 43 Then fear came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were done through the apostles. 44 Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, 45 and sold their possessions and goods, and divided 7them among all, as anyone had need.

46 So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart,
(Acts 2:42-47, NKJV).

The believers experienced quite a detachment from material goods!
They seemed to believe that the time was short, they sold all they had and devoted themselves to learning and to fellowship while continuing to witness about Jesus in Jerusalem.

This was the still part of the last week of the prophesied 70 weeks (490 years) allotted to the Jewish nation. The covenant of salvation was first offered to them! The evidence that Christ was indeed Lord come down from heaven to save sinners, was to be fully shown as truth to the nation of Judea before the believers scattered to share the good news to other people and nations.

A question asked:

What was an important aspect of early Christian fellowship?

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