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Re: Steve Wohlberg predicts possible church division, offers ebook to help address issues [Re: Daryl] #188477
02/13/19 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
[quote=Charity][quote=dedication]
Maritime allows discussion on both sides of this issue, even though I don't believe that WO is biblical.

As far as the choice of featured members goes, that is randomly chosen by the forum software and has nothing to do with what is being posted.
This is an important point to make; and one that I think the Church also does, or at least tries to do for the most part. The "divide and conquer" strategy works well when we take sides and pit ourselves against one another. I think its important to just give our witness for Christ, and to politely try explaining our point of view, hopefully from scripture, first, and then from other writings that are pertinent and upheld by scripture.

Steve W really doesnt need to "predict" division as scripture is clear that there has always and will always be divisions:

And I will put a division between my people and thy people: to morrow shall this sign be. (Exodus 8:23)

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: (Luke 12:51)
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We look upon the Jews as inexcusable because they rejected and crucified Christ. But today the messages that the Lord sends are often received in a manner similar to the way in which the Jews received Christ's message. If the instruction of the Lord does not harmonize with the opinions of men, anger takes control of reason, and men play into the enemy's hands by opposing the message that God sends. Satan uses them as sharp instruments to oppose the progress of truth (MS 31, 1889). {5BC 1089.5}
If we would study a little closer; we could see how division and heresy play a role in strengthening the church and her work, as people who are seeking to know the truth will do the searching needed.
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"Ye shall know the truth; and the truth will set you free. Jesus uses to His advantage all that we might try to do in opposing His message."All things work TOGETHER for good to them that love Jesus!" (Rom 8:28)



Last edited by The Wanderer; 02/13/19 06:08 AM.

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Re: Steve Wohlberg predicts possible church division, offers ebook to help address issues [Re: Daryl] #188502
02/15/19 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
Originally Posted By: Charity
Originally Posted By: dedication

The shaking has nothing to do with WO.


Maritime is at a point where it holds up those teaching error as featured members. It's one thing to allow for freedom of speech and it's another to endorse and condone error. Maritime has lost that balance and one of the root causes is your leadership and Daryl's decision to not follow scripture on this point.

Maritime allows discussion on both sides of this issue, even though I don't believe that WO is biblical.

As far as the choice of featured members goes, that is randomly chosen by the forum software and has nothing to do with what is being posted.


Daryl,

I commend you on allowing conversations to take place in a Christian setting on your forum. You have always manifested a Christian attitude and up held the highest standards.


Just one comment on WO. Christ has made us kings and priests and the redeemed in Heaven will be kings and priests before God our Father. That being true, it must follow that only men can be saved. Preposterous! But if we refuse to allow on earth what Christ has made to be a fact and what the Father allows in Heaven, we are rebelling against the will of God. Satan was cast out of heaven because of rebellion, rebels won't be admitted into Heaven to replenish those that have been cast out.


Gideon took 20000 to the river and came away with few hundred that God could use. Similarly, the GC decided a spiritual issue with 10's of thousands in favor of a policy that is in rebellion against the revealed will of God.


If that assessment is true, Laodiceans have been deceived to forbid on earth what God allows in Heaven and they are in danger of being among the rebels against God.

That is a sad testimony to present to God concerning those who profess to be representatives of God on earth.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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