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Re: Zechariah 5 [Re: Charity] #188844
03/21/19 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: Charity


After looking at these, I found myself rising from the ground, being lifted up to the top of the statue, level with its head. The head mysteriously began to open above the left ear as though the top of the skull were hinged just above the right ear. I looked inside. But, even when open and exposed directly to the afternoon sunlight the inside of the skull remained ominously dark. The only distinguishable object inside the skull was what looked like a spider's web made of strong strands of steel spanning the inside. The skull seemed full of evil and in my dream I shuddered in horror.

Then I awoke. After awakening I was able to recall all the particulars of the dream, but the feeling of horror I experienced when looking inside the scull remained with me quite a while after waking.
well; I dont see anything Biblical in this "dream." Seems like you have a very active imagination. What are we supposed to do with this? How you managed to mix in the concern re the "environmental movement"; Ill never know. What Bible truth are you trying to attach to this theme? Personally, I dont see anything in it worth pursuing.


"The worst foes of my spiritual life have never been hostile circumstance."

"There is always a little bit of light" (Micah 7:8)
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Sincerely, IN Christ; and THROUGH The Spirit


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Re: Zechariah 5 [Re: Charity] #188845
03/21/19 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted By: Charity
One element that will be a major factor in setting Babylon down on its base is the Environmental Movement. In the last month or two youth around the world have mobilized to force climate concerns to the front of the nation's legislative priorities. I'd encourage Maritime and family to keep an eye on this movement. It will, in my view, be the catalyst driving the creation of the image of the beast. Here's a list of what US youth are demanding according to the Youth Climate Strike website. The demands are similar globally:

- a national embrace of the Green New Deal
- an end to fossil fuel infrastructure projects
- mandatory education on climate change and its effects from K-8
- a clean water supply
- preservation of public lands and wildlife
- all government decisions to be tied to scientific research

- a national emergency declaration on climate change
- all government decisions to be tied to scientific research

They may find a conflict with that!

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The movement is in essence a misguided religion of planetary salvation. In 1986 I had the following dream of a high school youth movement. At no time between 1986 and now have I seen anything that appeared to precisely fulfill it. But what we're seeing today in my view is an ominously good fit. See what you all think.
I recall a similar dream you told about that you seemed to have a different conclusion. Are the dreams the same or different?

Re: Zechariah 5 [Re: Theophilus] #188858
03/23/19 01:24 AM
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I don't know about the dream things, but I do know Stephen bohr has been preaching that climate change will bring the world together. His video on this topic is fantastic.
Also, I heardthe song by don McClean, American Pie, was about Buddy Holly, Richie valens, and the Big Bopper.


I am not worthy of the least of all the mercies, and of all the truth, which Thou hast shewed unto Thy servant;...
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Re: Zechariah 5 [Re: kland] #188879
03/24/19 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
... I recall a similar dream you told about that you seemed to have a different conclusion. Are the dreams the same or different?


Interesting: I saw this comment as I scanned through this topic. Didn't have a clue who wrote it.

Thought to myself: reads like something Kland would write.

Surprise...Kland did write it.


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Re: Zechariah 5 [Re: Theophilus] #188893
03/25/19 01:00 PM
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Hmmm... Would you say I question things?

Re: Zechariah 5 [Re: kland] #188902
03/26/19 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Hmmm... Would you say I question things?


To the extent that you often muddy the water when things are clear.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Zechariah 5 [Re: kland] #188946
04/02/19 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
I recall a similar dream you told about that you seemed to have a different conclusion. Are the dreams the same or different?
I've shared it here before but I can't remember what my conclusions were. Bohr is right IMO. I've been looking recently for the spiritualism aspect within the environmental movement because in the dream the statue rests on an occultic/spiritualistic base. To me it's becoming evident that the religious fervor about the environment for many people draws heavily from paganism, nature worship, pantheism etc., and this is starting to manifest overtly now in the Vatican's treatment of the topic. Earlier today I read the introduction of Laudato Si, the current Pope's encyclical on the environment from a few years ago and was surprised at the Pope's blatantly pantheistic and pagan sentiments.
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“Laudato si’, mi’ Signore” – “Praise be to you, my Lord”. In the words of this beautiful canticle, Saint Francis of Assisi reminds us that our common home is like a sister with whom we share our life and a beautiful mother who opens her arms to embrace us. “Praise be to you, my Lord, through our Sister, Mother Earth, who sustains and governs us, and who produces various fruit with coloured flowers and herbs”.

Re: Zechariah 5 [Re: Theophilus] #188948
04/02/19 11:23 AM
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In addition to venerating and worshiping mother earth, in the same document, Laudato Si, the Pope offers Sunday or sun worship as a cornerstone of environmental salvation by shutting off emissions on that day which he also recommends as a family day for the laborer. It makes a certain kind of sense to link together environmental reverence with the Pagan veneration of mother nature and with the sun and Sunday. Ellen White tells us that heathen deities will manifest themselves supernaturally at the end. This has started with the Fox sisters of Rochester and now with Marian apparitions leading the way for other heathen deities to chime in and combine together to reinforce the call of the youth movement. Green religion combines with and is underpinned by green spiritualism.

But what does the Bible teach. It tells us that the world is laid waste because of the weight of the sins and transgressions of its wicked inhabitants. Only those who are in harmony with the laws of the Creator are empowered to be true stewards of the environment. In worshiping the Creator they naturally and automatically will care for the created order as faithful stewards who have been entrusted with the dominion of the earth.

Re: Zechariah 5 [Re: Theophilus] #188950
04/02/19 04:56 PM
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I imagine that the powers that be are sitting around thinking climate change is a big hoax. But since the people keep it going, they say, hmmm, maybe we can use that to our advantage. So now they're going with it. At least at the present time until something more popular comes up. Asteroid, nuclear, Muslims, who knows.

Re: Zechariah 5 [Re: kland] #188953
04/03/19 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
I imagine that the powers that be are sitting around thinking climate change is a big hoax. But since the people keep it going, they say, hmmm, maybe we can use that to our advantage. So now they're going with it. At least at the present time until something more popular comes up. Asteroid, nuclear, Muslims, who knows.


Climate change will climax in the 7 last plagues. No hoax prophecy getting ready to be fulfilled.


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