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Re: Zechariah 5
[Re: Theophilus]
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04/12/19 04:06 PM
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Re: Zechariah 5
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04/13/19 05:41 PM
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I found the meaning of Zechariah 5 from this Walter Veith video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGiXc9ydhqw
I am not worthy of the least of all the mercies, and of all the truth, which Thou hast shewed unto Thy servant;...
Gen 32:10
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Re: Zechariah 5
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04/14/19 09:05 PM
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Except for the Illuminati-Jesuit-Vatican conspiracy theory, good video. The best lecture on Zechariah 5 I've heard. The problem with conspiracy theories is two fold: 1)They are a distraction from the more important issues of present truth and the three angel's messages and 2)They are usually a source of disunity and division because they are strongly held opinions that, like climate change, can't be proven either way. But, notice that Veith agrees that the main application of Zechariah 5 is to the near future. And he implies Revelation 11 also is to be fulfilled again in the future. I'm glad to see a well-known SDA making that application. I hope he sees the future final application of the trumpets and seals as well.
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Re: Zechariah 5
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04/14/19 09:16 PM
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Given however long you think the climate has existed on this earth, do you think 100 years is adequate to determine "normal" CO2 levels? And you're right, at .03 percent, one wonders how that can make a difference. Note, that is not .03 but 0.0003! And as you're probably aware, one volcano going off can swamp that in no time. The majority of scientists claim that this change is the main cause of temperature rise because How would one go about determining that the temperature is rising? Today, it is much cooler than yesterday. Does that mean we are going into global cooling? If you say one day is not long enough, then how many days or years do we need to determine whether the earth is warming or cooling? You look at a line chart from 1880 to 2000 and the temperature rises and falls, but appears to be in a general incline. But if you choose a segment midway, it appears in a decline. Is there any reason not to suspect that if there were more years, we would see rises and falls made up of smaller rises and falls? Just because we are looking at a very limited segment should not cause us to conclude anything. If there was a way to even determine the current temperature of the earth, do we know whether that is the ideal temperature or if it should be warmer or cooler? It seems to me that there is some egocentrism that we do not even care how things were 100 years ago, but only care what it was during part of our lives and want it to be the same. But weather happens. Even if it doesn't meet all the predictions made... So many questions that so many scientists and others do not answer or do not ask. Good points. After I posted that bit on CO2 a few weeks ago I reviewed NASA's site on climate change and was more than a little surprised to find out how weak their case actually is. I still think it's probable that burning an unprecedented amount of fossil fuels is having some kind of impact, but it is by no means an open and shut case so far as what exactly the impact(s) is/are. It should concern us when the youth are energized, convinced that you and I are irrational deniers of science if we don't agree and anyone who thinks otherwise is a menace to their well being and future.
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Re: Zechariah 5
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04/15/19 08:10 PM
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Yes, burning an unprecedented amount of fossil fuels is having some kind of impact, but not global warming. Did everyone forget about pollution? There are lots of harmful byproducts being produced unlike natural occurring air. And it's using up resources which could be used for something more clever than just to burn. It wouldn't surprise me that some of the biggest polluters could be behind the global warming hoax in order to take the heat off their worst by-products. 'We might be dumping tons of toxins into the river, but we changed to LED lighting and plant trees to offset our carbon footprint'. Yeah....
I think what your seeing with the youth, is not just youth, but this background permeating hostility. The trade towers kind of started a mentality that some are not going to set back and let their "plane" be crashed. Which may have been another purpose of the event....
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Re: Zechariah 5
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04/16/19 06:34 AM
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In March 2015, it was determined that 96 million barrels of oil were consumed daily. 96 x 365 = 35,040.
It is not possible to consume 35,050 million barrels of oil a year without putting a considerable amount of heat into the atmosphere that is not being offset by planting trees or other means. While generating heat and CO2 from oil consumption, the US alone is being deforested at a rate of 10 million acres annually. Some of that land is being replanted, but a sapling does not take nearly as much CO2 from the atmosphere as full grown trees.
And none of the above takes into consideration the number of acres lost annually to forest fires globally.
"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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Re: Zechariah 5
[Re: Theophilus]
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04/19/19 08:09 PM
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Heat?
Really?
Me thinks you do not understand the issues of the false claim.
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