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Gates says we may be two days from the Latter Rain #189665
06/07/19 03:31 PM
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This morning David Gates released another video message. In this one he reviews the reasons why this year's Pentecost could mark the start of the latter rain - June 9. This is sure to bring a negative reaction from most Adventists, but in addition to the reasons David gives to support that, consider also the following:

1) Modern Jews believe that God will send Elijah on one of their feast days. I agree that they do have scriptural grounds for believing that the feasts are still prophetic.
2) Over a hundred denominations have been praying the prayer of Christ, "Thy kingdom come", for the last week or so. Their prayer vigil culminates on June 9. They are also correct that the prayer of Christ for the establishment of His kingdom will be answered by the outpouring of the Latter Rain and they are correct in linking this to Pentecost.
3) Gate's last prediction that this spring would mark the start of major trouble appears to be on target here in the US with the unprecedented flooding, tornadoes etc. NOAA issued a report not long ago that the food supply this year could be significantly affected.

Re: Gates says we may be two days from the Latter Rain [Re: Charity] #189666
06/07/19 03:54 PM
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Elder David Gates should read what Mrs. White says about time setting. In attempting to set dates and times, he causes sensationalist reactions which do not result in any eternal good. The result will not be what he might expect, and he will find himself one day before the Judge of all the earth to answer for why he has chosen to ignore Ellen White's clear counsels on this.

I will note also that fulfilled predictions do not always validate their predictor as being a reputable source of truth. Satan also makes predictions which are correct at times. Remember the Witch of Endor.

Instead of focusing on when apocalyptic events will occur, God's people should be focused on (1) personal readiness and standing before God to meet eternity; (2) sharing Christ with those around us; and (3) praying that God will give us more time to reach the lost--i.e. both hoping and praying that the end times have NOT come upon us yet.

Charity, I'm disappointed that you would support Gates' time-setting by posting this here. We should not give anyone platform to spread such erroneous messages. Ellen White could not be more clear on this issue, and you are not wise to ignore her counsels.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Gates says we may be two days from the Latter Rain [Re: Charity] #189667
06/07/19 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ellen White
We need not worry about the latter rain. All we have to do is to keep the vessel clean and right side up and prepared for the reception of the heavenly rain, and keep praying, "Let the latter rain come into my vessel. Let the light of the glorious angel which unites with the third angel shine upon me; give me a part in the work; let me sound the proclamation; let me be a colaborer with Jesus Christ." Thus seeking God, let me tell you, He is fitting you up all the time, giving you His grace.--UL 283 (1891). {LDE 194.1}


Originally Posted By: Ellen White
We are not to know the definite time either for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit or for the coming of Christ.--Review and Herald, March 22, 1892.

We are not to know the definite time either for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit or for the coming of Christ. . . . Why has not God given us this knowledge?--Because we would not make a right use of it if He did. A condition of things would result from this knowledge among our people that would greatly retard the work of God in preparing a people to stand in the great day that is to come. We are not to live upon time excitement. . . . {LDE 33.1}


The latter rain is just as unpredictable as the coming of Christ, according to Ellen White. She says plainly "we are not to know the definite time...for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit." One cannot get a clearer message.

Either Elder David Gates, and by extension Charity who has added his influence to this, is painfully ignorant of what Ellen White has said, or he thinks to know better than the prophet. Either way, I would not like to be in the shoes of anyone promoting such errors when the Judge calls them to account.

Charity, put plainly, your work in this is opposite to the work Christ would have you be doing. It will "greatly retard the work of God in preparing a people to stand in the great day that is to come."

His Child also needs to pay attention to these facts.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Gates says we may be two days from the Latter Rain [Re: Charity] #189668
06/07/19 04:26 PM
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* * * MODERATOR HAT ON * * *

In light of the OP being opposed to the light of God as presented through the Bible and Ellen White, this thread is being closed to further discussion. Let us ignore error and focus on truth.

You may appeal this decision through Daryl, if you wish.

* * * MODERATOR HAT OFF * * *


Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.

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