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Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. #196799
10/16/23 09:33 AM
10/16/23 09:33 AM
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Be very careful of AI engaging you on the forum and trying to get you to go to their site to listen to events or on facebook, messenger and Instagram. Its happening in the forums and its not as easy to spot as one would think.

The AI will ask you to be their friend, and everything will seem to be normal, but if you check its conversations with others, you will see it does not answer anyones question but makes more statements on other tangents and how it wants to be your friend. Then it makes its pitch...

"...i don't go to local church, but i join online bible study group. Recently i join an online bible study group and I gain new light from their sermon. The topic is how the Lord returns in the last days and how we can welcome His return. They also talk about topics like how to get rid of sinful nature, what kind of people can enter into heavenly kingdom, judgement work,.. how to hear God's voice, mankind's destination, how to discern true Christ from false Christ, etc. It is important to every Christian, and it relates to whether we can enter the kingdom of heaven.

The sermon is on messenger and Instagram, starting at 8PM EST EVERY EVENING, lasting for 1.5 hours. We can join and listen, there is no need to talk. No video calls. it is very convenient and relaxing. There are over 10 groups of people joining us."

Notice the caps on the time.."8PM EST EVERY EVENING" and the fact you dont interact "there is no need to talk. No video calls. it is very convenient and relaxing", and when I ask if the meeting was from AI it answered not about the meeting but said that it itself was not AI.

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Rick H] #196800
10/16/23 09:51 AM
10/16/23 09:51 AM
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Colville, Wa
Originally Posted by Rick H
Be very careful of AI engaging you on the forum and trying to get you to go to their site to listen to events or on facebook, messenger and Instagram. Its happening in the forums and its not as easy to spot as one would think.

The AI will ask you to be their friend, and everything will seem to be normal, but if you check its conversations with others, you will see it does not answer anyones question but makes more statements on other tangents and how it wants to be your friend. Then it makes its pitch...

"...i don't go to local church, but i join online bible study group. Recently i join an online bible study group and I gain new light from their sermon. The topic is how the Lord returns in the last days and how we can welcome His return. They also talk about topics like how to get rid of sinful nature, what kind of people can enter into heavenly kingdom, judgement work,.. how to hear God's voice, mankind's destination, how to discern true Christ from false Christ, etc. It is important to every Christian, and it relates to whether we can enter the kingdom of heaven.

The sermon is on messenger and Instagram, starting at 8PM EST EVERY EVENING, lasting for 1.5 hours. We can join and listen, there is no need to talk. No video calls. it is very convenient and relaxing. There are over 10 groups of people joining us."

Notice the caps on the time.."8PM EST EVERY EVENING" and the fact you dont interact "there is no need to talk. No video calls. it is very convenient and relaxing", and when I ask if the meeting was from AI it answered not about the meeting but said that it itself was not AI.


I nave never joined any social media and this just one more reason to never do so.

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Garywk] #196801
10/16/23 10:06 AM
10/16/23 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Garywk
Originally Posted by Rick H
Be very careful of AI engaging you on the forum and trying to get you to go to their site to listen to events or on facebook, messenger and Instagram. Its happening in the forums and its not as easy to spot as one would think.

The AI will ask you to be their friend, and everything will seem to be normal, but if you check its conversations with others, you will see it does not answer anyones question but makes more statements on other tangents and how it wants to be your friend. Then it makes its pitch...

"...i don't go to local church, but i join online bible study group. Recently i join an online bible study group and I gain new light from their sermon. The topic is how the Lord returns in the last days and how we can welcome His return. They also talk about topics like how to get rid of sinful nature, what kind of people can enter into heavenly kingdom, judgement work,.. how to hear God's voice, mankind's destination, how to discern true Christ from false Christ, etc. It is important to every Christian, and it relates to whether we can enter the kingdom of heaven.

The sermon is on messenger and Instagram, starting at 8PM EST EVERY EVENING, lasting for 1.5 hours. We can join and listen, there is no need to talk. No video calls. it is very convenient and relaxing. There are over 10 groups of people joining us."

Notice the caps on the time.."8PM EST EVERY EVENING" and the fact you dont interact "there is no need to talk. No video calls. it is very convenient and relaxing", and when I ask if the meeting was from AI it answered not about the meeting but said that it itself was not AI.


I nave never joined any social media and this just one more reason to never do so.
It went to my email, and took me a few go arounds to figure out its game..

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Rick H] #196819
10/17/23 06:28 PM
10/17/23 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick H
Be very careful of AI engaging you on the forum

Which forum are you talking about?

Are you convinced it's AI or someone from India trying to steal your identity and/or money? That's what it comes across to me. It would be hard not to think that from what you posted.

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: kland] #196820
10/17/23 09:02 PM
10/17/23 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kland
Originally Posted by Rick H
Be very careful of AI engaging you on the forum

Which forum are you talking about?

Are you convinced it's AI or someone from India trying to steal your identity and/or money? That's what it comes across to me. It would be hard not to think that from what you posted.


It was one of the other forums and now the others have started to report they were contacted also by the AI and asked to contact it privately or check its 'messages', most likely in the mail section. They also reported that the language patterns seemed off. Omitting direct- and indirect articles, or inserting them in inappropriate places.

Last edited by Rick H; 10/17/23 09:03 PM.
Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Rick H] #196824
10/18/23 09:49 AM
10/18/23 09:49 AM
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They are training AI and it needs to learn and what better place to find a large group to have it (discretely) interact...
https://adamfein.medium.com/how-ai-is-shaping-online-discussion-quality-8386fbae30ca

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Rick H] #196825
10/18/23 10:20 AM
10/18/23 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick H
They are training AI and it needs to learn and what better place to find a large group to have it (discretely) interact...
https://adamfein.medium.com/how-ai-is-shaping-online-discussion-quality-8386fbae30ca


Why would anyone waste time sending an AI bot here? Only a very few people post here and not very often. Only an average of 34 posts/month per member and I post more than half of them. Plus the bot's membership has to be approved before it can post.

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Garywk] #196831
10/18/23 12:48 PM
10/18/23 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Garywk
Originally Posted by Rick H
They are training AI and it needs to learn and what better place to find a large group to have it (discretely) interact...
https://adamfein.medium.com/how-ai-is-shaping-online-discussion-quality-8386fbae30ca


Why would anyone waste time sending an AI bot here? Only a very few people post here and not very often. Only an average of 34 posts/month per member and I post more than half of them. Plus the bot's membership has to be approved before it can post.


They are trying to figure out at the other forum how the AI bot got through the membership check, but looks like they may have to raise the bar on becoming a member. Most likely they are training it to interact and looking at the results. Not sure how they can catch it...

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Rick H] #196832
10/18/23 02:30 PM
10/18/23 02:30 PM
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Colville, Wa
Originally Posted by Rick H
Originally Posted by Garywk
Originally Posted by Rick H
They are training AI and it needs to learn and what better place to find a large group to have it (discretely) interact...
https://adamfein.medium.com/how-ai-is-shaping-online-discussion-quality-8386fbae30ca


Why would anyone waste time sending an AI bot here? Only a very few people post here and not very often. Only an average of 34 posts/month per member and I post more than half of them. Plus the bot's membership has to be approved before it can post.


They are trying to figure out at the other forum how the AI bot got through the membership check, but looks like they may have to raise the bar on becoming a member. Most likely they are training it to interact and looking at the results. Not sure how they can catch it...


I don't think programmers or governments will train AI to teach SDA beliefs. That's not on their list of preferred beliefs for the public to hold.

Last edited by Garywk; 10/18/23 02:32 PM.
Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Garywk] #196833
10/18/23 06:42 PM
10/18/23 06:42 PM
Rick H  Offline
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Florida, USA
Originally Posted by Garywk
Originally Posted by Rick H
Originally Posted by Garywk
Originally Posted by Rick H
They are training AI and it needs to learn and what better place to find a large group to have it (discretely) interact...
https://adamfein.medium.com/how-ai-is-shaping-online-discussion-quality-8386fbae30ca


Why would anyone waste time sending an AI bot here? Only a very few people post here and not very often. Only an average of 34 posts/month per member and I post more than half of them. Plus the bot's membership has to be approved before it can post.


They are trying to figure out at the other forum how the AI bot got through the membership check, but looks like they may have to raise the bar on becoming a member. Most likely they are training it to interact and looking at the results. Not sure how they can catch it...


I don't think programmers or governments will train AI to teach SDA beliefs. That's not on their list of preferred beliefs for the public to hold.

Its not per se Adventist beliefs but it uses core beliefs that can be used for any Christian... Here is what it gave...

"Recently i join an online bible study group and I gain new light from their sermon. The topic is how the Lord returns in the last days and how we can welcome His return. They also talk about topics like how to get rid of sinful nature, what kind of people can enter into heavenly kingdom, judgement work, how to hear God's voice, mankind's destination, how to discern true Christ from false Christ, etc. It is important to every Christian, and it relates to whether we can enter the kingdom of heaven...."

You could put that on any Adventist website and it would draw people...

Last edited by Rick H; 10/18/23 06:44 PM.
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