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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Rick H] #196835
10/18/23 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick H
Originally Posted by Garywk
Originally Posted by Rick H
Originally Posted by Rick H
They are training AI and it needs to learn and what better place to find a large group to have it (discretely) interact...
https://adamfein.medium.com/how-ai-is-shaping-online-discussion-quality-8386fbae30ca


Why would anyone waste time sending an AI bot here? Only a very few people post here and not very often. Only an average of 34 posts/month per member and I post more than half of them. Plus the bot's membership has to be approved before it can post.


They are trying to figure out at the other forum how the AI bot got through the membership check, but looks like they may have to raise the bar on becoming a member. Most likely they are training it to interact and looking at the results. Not sure how they can catch it...


Its not per se Adventist beliefs but it uses core beliefs that can be used for any Christian... Here is what it gave...

"Recently i join an online bible study group and I gain new light from their sermon. The topic is how the Lord returns in the last days and how we can welcome His return. They also talk about topics like how to get rid of sinful nature, what kind of people can enter into heavenly kingdom, judgement work, how to hear God's voice, mankind's destination, how to discern true Christ from false Christ, etc. It is important to every Christian, and it relates to whether we can enter the kingdom of heaven...."

You could put that on any Adventist website and it would draw people...


So? If you ask about the Sabbath it is not going to agree and it will not teach the Sabbath. It will work on nominal Christians but not SDAs.

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Garywk] #196836
10/19/23 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Garywk


So? If you ask about the Sabbath it is not going to agree and it will not teach the Sabbath. It will work on nominal Christians but not SDAs.


Its not about doctrine, it just tries to make friends, and chit chats then it makes its pitch..

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Rick H] #196845
10/19/23 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick H
Originally Posted by Garywk


So? If you ask about the Sabbath it is not going to agree and it will not teach the Sabbath. It will work on nominal Christians but not SDAs.


Its not about doctrine, it just tries to make friends, and chit chats then it makes its pitch..


I don't believe it's not about doctrine as it is being sent to nominal Christianity and will be very apparent to any knowledgeable SDA. We know the devil is going about like a roaring lion so this is just another one of his tools and it will not teach all Bible truths.

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Rick H] #196847
10/19/23 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick H

Its not per se Adventist beliefs but it uses core beliefs that can be used for any Christian... Here is what it gave...

"Recently i join an online bible study group and I gain new light from their sermon. The topic is how the Lord returns in the last days and how we can welcome His return. They also talk about topics like how to get rid of sinful nature, what kind of people can enter into heavenly kingdom, judgement work, how to hear God's voice, mankind's destination, how to discern true Christ from false Christ, etc. It is important to every Christian, and it relates to whether we can enter the kingdom of heaven...."

You could put that on any Adventist website and it would draw people...

It sure reads much like spam e-mails that I received a decade or two ago. Just not the, send money for your grandkid that is in a bind. Probably not until you bite on the line. Maybe AI is no smarter than people from India trying to scam people.

How could one put it to a test to see if it is AI or scammers from India?

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Rick H] #196852
10/19/23 08:21 PM
10/19/23 08:21 PM
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Remember: Even Joshua had trouble when he first encountered Ai.

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Rick H] #196853
10/19/23 11:01 PM
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I have yet to understand why I should fear talking to an AI bot on a forum? AI is very dangerous, but not in this fashion.

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Garywk] #196855
10/20/23 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Garywk
I have yet to understand why I should fear talking to an AI bot on a forum? AI is very dangerous, but not in this fashion.


True, my only thought was how many rounds with it that it took to see it was AI. As you dont want to accuse a poster of being AI just for their poor grammar or spelling, as I think most of us would then be suspect... LOL.

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Rick H] #196896
10/27/23 10:59 AM
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So how could one put it to a test to see if it is AI or scammers from India?

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: kland] #196907
10/27/23 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kland
So how could one put it to a test to see if it is AI or scammers from India?

Ask it directly if it is 'AI', the answer will be very short with no feeling. It its a human it will be more emotional and perturbed which AI has not learned to do yet it seems, and maybe a little angry at the question. But that may be what they work on next...

Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum. [Re: Rick H] #196940
11/08/23 12:04 PM
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You thought of it. Don't you think programmers have already thought of it and added in the fake offense? I hear you saying you do not know of a way to determine if AI or scammers.

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