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Let's compare the crime rates in America's safest city versus those in Canada's worst city for crime.

In this corner, Simi "Safest Large City in America" Valley, Californa.
Population: 111,351.
Suburban home to affluent white-collar commuters.

In the colder corner, Regina, "Canada's Crime Capital" Saskatchewan.
Population: 193,652.
Capital city of a province dependent on agriculture. First Nations people make up a sizable minority group.

Simi Valley's crime rate: 15.1 per 1,000 residents.

Regina's crime rate: 14.8 per 1,000 residents.

The difference becomes starker as you go down the American list and up the Canadian list. In 10th spot on America's safe list is San Jose (population 894,943) with a crime rate of 25.49 per 1,000 residents. In 10th spot on Canada's worst crime list is Montreal (population 3,326,510) with a crime rate of 7.2 per 1,000 residents. Montreal's crime rate is one-third that of San Jose.

America's Safest Cities: (crime rate)
1. Simi Valley, CA (15.11)
2. Thousand Oaks, CA (16.58)
3. Santa Clarita, CA (17.74)
4. Amherst Town, NY (17.78)
5. Sunnyvale, CA (20.02)
6. Daly City, CA (20.54)
7. Irvine, CA (22.42)
8. Huntington Beach, CA (23.89)
9. Glendale, CA (25.18)
10. San Jose, CA (25.49)
(Source: FBI)

Canada's Worst Cities for Crime:
1. Regina (14.8)
2. Saskatoon (12.9)
3. Vancouver (11.2)
4. Victoria (10.6)
5. Winnipeg (10.4)
6. Halifax (9.2)
7. Thunder Bay (8.9)
8. London (8.7)
9. Edmonton (8.4)
10. Montreal (7.2)
(Source: Statistics Canada)

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So why aren't the Americans packing their bags and heading north of the border? Why are the Canadians packing theirs and heading south? Wages and job opportunities.

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For I know that my redeemer liveth,
and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth.
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Linda

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So will the Chamber of Commerce PR people & Realtors of those 10 Canadian cities please stand up..........OK guys & gals.........walk over to your computers & e-mail me........my e-mail is in my profile.

Snowcream for desert, maple syrup & waffles, moose eating my garden........MOOSE EATING MY GARDEN.........CANCEL MY E-TICKETS......!!!

Hello rent a dog ..... I need to rent one hungrey pack of wild dingo's for the afternoon, please have Steve Erwin deliver them. MOOSE eating my future sourkraut & kimchee indeed.....REVENGE OF THE CABBAGE PATCH PEOPLE. super glue Moose dentures

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All dementia aside, Canada does sound appealing, and part of the year I might stay chilled enough to suit me, nes pas .

Linda was already nervous when we went to Michigan, I kept saying "what if" & she kept up the litany/dirge of "snow - winter", I kept saying "enough to play in". She would groan, I would grin & look at RealEstate as we zoomed past.

She freezes, I roast. I never realized before, we sorta sound like an Adventist coffee substitute commercial. Linda & Ed's freeze dried.... full bodied... slow roasted... blend of American and Canadian flavors. Only on MSDAOL (and I don't even like coffee)

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Edward F Sutton

If Canada stays smart, this is one record they will be glad to let us keep.

I don't know, but there were a lot of young men that went north into Canada during the Vietnam era.
Maybe they heard about all the rewards they will get if they come back home?

I can't resist...
If Australia's borders collided with either the US or Canada, we'd be swamped with immigrants from both places. Australia is one of the world's best-kept secrets.

Hi Zyph!!!! If Australia wasn't so far away, it would be an option!! I would love to at least visit there someday....

Did anyone notice that Calgary is NOT on that list of top? tens??? I'm very proud of my hometown!

BTW Ed, I have never had a moose eat my garden... or my mom's garden, or anyone's garden. Although my sister's landlord complains about deer getting into their garden (in the country) but I'm sure you probably have that problem down south too. Of course, if people would fence in their gardens, it would probably reduce the occurrance.... maybe. I like Canada, you just have to tell Linda that she'll get used to the weather, eventually! I did when I went to Tennessee!

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Sarah Moss
Psalms 103 - I am blessed!

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AHHHHH! Tennessee, lived there for many years. Got married there. My first child was born there. I like Tennessee! Don't like the crime in Nashville, though.

And the deer eat the gardens from border to border, and north of the border, and probably south of the border too. Only an 8' fence will keep them out. They jump anything else!

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For I know that my redeemer liveth,
and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth.
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Linda

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Nope, fences don't keep Moose out of my little garden.

It's the sign that warns "Attention: any Moose caught in Ed's plants gets saddled and ridden by Ed (after he's had a full lunch to boot) .

So far no Moose have volunteered for a backache .

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Edward F Sutton

I have/had a problem with White tail getting into mine.
My dog keeps them away, now.
They don't like the noise.
As far as moose are concerned, I'll put up a sign and let them know my neighbor to the North will eat them.
He's a carnivore.
Weighs around 180 pounds and has short black and tan fur.
Answers to the name Scooter.
If it's meat, he'll eat it.
Or at least lick it to death.

I lived in or near several of the "high crime" Canadian cities. Our churches there were broken into regularly. We had to install a security system and alarm in each one--something that seems unheard of here in Ontario.

Sadly in the Western provinces there is a great deal of disillusionment and poverty, especially among the First Nations. Almost all inmates in correctional facilities in Manitoba and Saskatchewan are First Nations people. I used to hold worship talks in the Winnipeg Remans center. There's no question of a problem there.

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You have done many good things for me, Lord, just as you promised. I believe in your commands; now teach me good judgment and knowledge. Psalm 119:65-66 NLT

Would you believe that both our church and food bank have been broken into even here in Fredericton, NB!!!

And I consider this area one of the safest places in the world to live in!

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In His Love,Mercy & Grace

Daryl

Guess thre's not much doubt as to which country I prefer!!! I've lived in Riverside, California and Hanford California for a combined total of 4 years....too hot and smoggy, and tooooooo many people!
Do you all realize that the population of California alone, is equal to all of Canada?

Brother Ed, I haven't even seen a moosein my county... (actually there are a few left), but certainly nothing in " my neck of the woods"!
Speaking of "woods", quite often I forget to lock the house and garage doors. Want to guess how often I've been broken into? ZILCH!
So living in the woods has its advantages! 'course, as the neighbor told a preacher (the preacher was calling on one of his parishoners, when he could find him). "Reverend, you're safe here. There ain't a Christian within miles!"
Sad part is, most of my neighbors don't darken a church door, as they say "Too many hyper-crites attend church"!

The BIG CITY of Pugwash population...hmmm, probably ?1000! Love it! Me and my back 22 acres! Now if I could just decrease the mosquito population. There ain't a single one, but zillions of 'em Zillions BTW means MANY- MORE THAN ONE!

They all call it CAN-ADA, but I CALL IT HOME!
LMe

I have been to canada and must confe
ss I was impressed.
Beautiful country, friendly people, but, USA is home amd I miss it greatly when away for too long.
Life is good here in the northwoods of the lower P., so, will stay 'til I die or the Lord comes back........ or they haul me away because I won't do what they want.

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Examine me, O LORD, and prove me: try my reins and my heart. Ps.26:2
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in men.Ps.118:8

Simple explanation, 2 possibilities.

1: We have more laws down here, so it's harder to not be a criminal.
2: We have better cops who catch a higher percentage of the criminals, thereby "raising" the crime rate.

(I'm just kiddin', I luv u guys up north.)

I've been to Canada a few times, but not enough to be an expert on Canadian law and crime. But my memory is that there are a lot less parking meters in Canada cities than USA cities, and you know how many parking meter crimes there are! And I will admit, I observed a lot less J-walking in Canada.

After what happened on September 11th, I think we now know the answer to this question.

Zyph:

I'd hate to have to point out to you, that Australia along with Great Briton far exceed either the United States or Canada for the rate of "Violent Crime" committed against the population. This was from a study done comparing victim crime rates, done by Lyden University in the Netherlands a year or so ago, under the auspices of the U.N. While Canada certainly is a safer place statistically then the U.S......still the U.S. was far down the list of countries where the innocent civilian could statistically expect to be the victim of a violent crime.

Still I'd love to visit your country someday, anyway.

Ah, J R, that's just propaganda that we spread to keep everyone else out! But if you're very good, maybe one day you'll be rewarded with a trip here.

Seriously, I have been to the United States - New York City - and I know the people there had excellent manners. They didn't know I was a foreigner, but on public transport my four year old son and I were offered seats all the time; people held open doors of shops, etc; People just had a nice - if slightly assertive - manner that I found appealing. But I was always aware that under all that heavy clothing lurked lots of guns!

Interesting statistics. Are you sure they weren't counting the crocodile and brown snake attacks? Seriously again, I suspect violence would be related to substance abuse, and we certainly are a nation of drinkers.

The best way to protect yourself is to shave your head, get some tattoos, carry a length of four by two, and adopt an angry look. Works for me!! LOL

Zyph:

re:" but on public transport my four year old son and I were offered seats all the time; people held open doors of shops, etc; People just had a nice - if slightly assertive - manner that I found appealing."

IN NYC? Amazing! (gggg) totally unheard of (gggg).

re:"But I was always aware that under all that heavy clothing lurked lots of guns!"

Not really, NYC and State has some of the most restrictive fireams laws in this country. (along with the States of Mass, Calif, and Washington DC) The state of Vermont...which is perhaps our most liberal (politically) state...has the most liberal firearms law...yet is one of our safest states.

Yeah...New Yorkers are somewhat "assertive"

The restrictive gun laws in New York appear not to be having the desired effect on public safety. But I really did find the people generally friendly, if cautious.