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Re: Where Did Cain's Wife Come From?
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04/29/04 05:33 PM
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I'm more interested in finding out if we'll be equiped in the New Earth to use the washroom. I just can't imagine having to dig leach fields and set septic tanks for sewer in heaven or the New Earth.
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Re: Where Did Cain's Wife Come From?
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04/29/04 08:44 PM
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On the way this thread is moving, a fundamental question is what a human is and what are nessessary parts for a person to still be human. If for instance one would (for the sake of discussion) considder the idea so many other christians have that the soul of the dead leaves the body after death. Question then follows if a soul without a body would still be a human. So are belly-buttons and the natural processes of nutrition nessessary for our defninition of what a human is...
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Re: Where Did Cain's Wife Come From?
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05/30/04 10:04 AM
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Cains wife was a descendant of Adam & Eve: quote:
Acts 17:26 26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; KJV ----------------------------------------------
26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, NASB
I give God the glory for showing this to me while studying the boook of Acts with our prayer group every week. It is amazing at how God will give you knowledge and have His Holy Spirit teach you. God Bless, Will
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Re: Where Did Cain's Wife Come From?
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05/30/04 02:02 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Mike Lowe: I'm more interested in finding out if we'll be equiped in the New Earth to use the washroom. I just can't imagine having to dig leach fields and set septic tanks for sewer in heaven or the New Earth.
I agree with Mike....I just do not believe we will have to be concerned with that stuff in the New Earth. I believe that our new bodies will just use everything and there will be no need for that function anymore. Can you imagine having to dig sewars, making Tolet Paper, etc. on the New Earth. Some people find it hard to believe that there will be some things that our bodies do on this earth now that we will not do on the New Earth. I have no problem with beieving anything. My God can do ANYTHING. There is no reason why our bodies will not just assimilate all food eaten. This is a much better idea than the other way.
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Re: Where Did Cain's Wife Come From?
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05/30/04 02:44 PM
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We don't cease to be human beings just because there might be the modification of some body parts. I also believe our matabolism will be changed, as well as our defects, at Christ's second coming. With perfect digestion of perfect food, we may not need to eliminate waste. In his mercy, God made changes in us and animals , to deal with sinful, faulty earth. A Lion's teeth and claws, plus digestive organs, made to eat flesh, is an example. A domestic cat needs sharp teeth and claws to protect against larger animals. A cat will still be a cat in the new earth, even with modified teeth and stomach, for a vegetarian diet. So, I have no trouble with the idea of not needing restrooms in heaven. God also will probably modify the female body so that she need not deal with "the curse" every month, as they used to call it. About navels, I agree with you above who say it doesn't really matter big time, but we do know that when God created the earth it had the appearance of being older than it was...full grown trees, rivers running, adult animals. God didn't just plant seed and wait for them to grow through the stages they would thereafter. So, if Adam had a navel, it's not so weird an idea, actually. I agree that much of these will be marvelous topics to discuss around our living rooms in our "mansions" promised us in heaven.
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Re: Where Did Cain's Wife Come From?
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05/31/04 03:37 AM
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It is obvious that Adam and Eve bore Cain and Abel, however, there are not any records of another birth until Seth, who is mentioned as a replacement of the deceased Abel. But there is mentioned a passing of time: quote:
Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Genesis 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Genesis 4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
During this process or passing of time, Adam and Eve obviously gave birth to other children who eventually grew up and bore children of their own, so on and so forth.
The fact that Cain was marked for protection purposes testifies to this:
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Genesis 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. Genesis 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
The following verses then speak about Cain's dwelling place, and first speaks about Cain's wife:
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Genesis 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Genesis 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
It doesn't say when Cain married his wife. They could have been married prior to his slaying Abel.
We also do not know who gave birth to Cain's wife. It could have been Adam & Eve, or it could have been from one of their offsprings, or even another person's offsprings. Remember there was a process or passing of time before Cain slew Abel.
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Re: Where Did Cain's Wife Come From?
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05/31/04 03:47 AM
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But why didn't Moses, when he wrote Genesis, mention all the other children Adam and Eve produced before Cain and Abel were born?
"Gen. 5:3-4 "When Adam had lived 130 years, he became the father of a son in his likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth. After Seth's birth Adam lived another 800 years. HE HAD OTHER SONS AND DAUGHTERS"
and their children, and grandchildren, etc.? Also, the geneological record in the Bible leads one to believe Seth was Adam's first born. Why?
The geneological record traces the family line-- the patriarch of the "tribe". Seth was Noah's ancestor-- and also it was through Seth's line -- who was the ancestor of Noah -- who was the ancester of Abraham -- who was the ancestor of Judah -- that Christ was born. Thus that line is the one followed most closely in scripture.
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Re: Where Did Cain's Wife Come From?
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05/31/04 01:14 PM
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I used to wonder why the bible leaves out so much, until I read somewhere that if it included extensive info on everything it would be so large, or so many volumes, that it's distribution would be very much hampered. As it is, it's a manageable size, albeit the pages must be thin and the lettering fonts very small. God knows what He's doing. We have enough to show us the way to the Kingdom. The Bible needs to be readily available to all people.
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Re: Where Did Cain's Wife Come From?
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05/31/04 05:35 PM
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A couple of thoughts.
1. As to the process of elimination in heaven, I have come to believe that with the perfect food, there is little to no elimination necessary. For example... my son's sole food is breastmilk - God's design for human babies. In the last month or so, his digestive system has developed to the point that he only has a bowel movement every 6 days or so. Pretty good! God's food is perfect and our bodies are perfectly made for it!
2. The Bible doesn't even say that Cain was Adam and Eve's firstborn son. We just assume he was because of the way it is written and that we are not told of any other children.
3. Even in Abraham's day it was still acceptable to a degree to marry one's sibling - Sarah was Abraham's 1/2 sister. And, Abraham sent his servant to his family to find a wife for Isaac - Rebekah was Isaac's cousin. It's not too far fetched to realize that Adam & Eve's children had to marry each other since there was no one else alive on earth.
My 2 cents worth anyway.
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Re: Where Did Cain's Wife Come From?
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05/31/04 05:55 PM
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If I understand correctly the act of brother & sister marrying was condemned in the book of Leviticus, so perhaps before that time it was Ok and the children were free from defects which results from inbreeding.
God Bless, Will
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