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Question about a prophecy #32129
11/18/04 08:29 AM
11/18/04 08:29 AM
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vastergotland  Offline OP
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Two Shepherds
4 This is what the LORD my God says: "Pasture the flock marked for slaughter. 5 Their buyers slaughter them and go unpunished. Those who sell them say, 'Praise the LORD , I am rich!' Their own shepherds do not spare them. 6 For I will no longer have pity on the people of the land," declares the LORD . "I will hand everyone over to his neighbor and his king. They will oppress the land, and I will not rescue them from their hands."
7 So I pastured the flock marked for slaughter, particularly the oppressed of the flock. Then I took two staffs and called one Favor and the other Union, and I pastured the flock. 8 In one month I got rid of the three shepherds.
The flock detested me, and I grew weary of them 9 and said, "I will not be your shepherd. Let the dying die, and the perishing perish. Let those who are left eat one another's flesh."
10 Then I took my staff called Favor and broke it, revoking the covenant I had made with all the nations. 11 It was revoked on that day, and so the afflicted of the flock who were watching me knew it was the word of the LORD .
12 I told them, "If you think it best, give me my pay; but if not, keep it." So they paid me thirty pieces of silver.
13 And the LORD said to me, "Throw it to the potter"-the handsome price at which they priced me! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the LORD to the potter.

14 Then I broke my second staff called Union, breaking the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
15 Then the LORD said to me, "Take again the equipment of a foolish shepherd. 16 For I am going to raise up a shepherd over the land who will not care for the lost, or seek the young, or heal the injured, or feed the healthy, but will eat the meat of the choice sheep, tearing off their hoofs.

17 "Woe to the worthless shepherd,
who deserts the flock!
May the sword strike his arm and his right eye!
May his arm be completely withered,
his right eye totally blinded!"


-The staff called favour here is translated "grace" in swedish.

What does this prophecy mean? Does anyone know?

/Thomas

Re: Question about a prophecy #32130
11/19/04 08:45 PM
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Thomas,

What is the reference to the above prophecy?

Re: Question about a prophecy #32131
11/20/04 05:50 AM
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It's Zechariah 11:4-17, in the NIV.

at BibleGateway.com

Re: Question about a prophecy #32132
11/20/04 09:03 AM
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vastergotland  Offline OP
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Jep, John got it exactly. Sorry for not writing it out. It looks like zecharaiah should be just next to ezechiel and daniel on the future prophecy list in OT.

/Thomas

Re: Question about a prophecy #32133
12/07/04 11:23 AM
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Making this post to give the question one secound chance. Surely someone out there has read and studied Zecharaiah before.

/Thomas

Re: Question about a prophecy #32134
12/08/04 04:48 AM
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It's interesting that Matthew attributed the prophecy regarding the thirty pieces of silver to Jeremy. But the prophecy is actually recorded in Zechariah. Here's a link to commentaries that attempt to explain this problem:

http://www.studylight.org/com/mhc-com/view.cgi?book=mt&chapter=027

http://www.studylight.org/com/acc/view.cgi?book=mt&chapter=027

http://www.studylight.org/com/jlc/view.cgi?book=mt&chapter=027

Re: Question about a prophecy #32135
12/08/04 10:35 AM
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I think its interesting that you posted 3 commentaries on Matthew and none on Zecharaiah. I better try to read trough them.

/Thomas

Re: Question about a prophecy #32136
12/09/04 04:23 AM
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Yes, the commentaries very much include Zechariah. They explain much about the prophecy of Zechariah. Skip down to where they talk about verse 9.


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