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What is the Good News?
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10/03/05 03:07 AM
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What is the message that is to fill the earth with glory?
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Re: What is the Good News?
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Jesus the Son of God, who became like us, died for our sins, overcame death, is in Heaven interceding for us, and will come again to take us home. I hope I am close God Bless, Will
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Re: What is the Good News?
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Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
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Re: What is the Good News?
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Good quotes and statments guys!
How does Jesus do these things? (i.e. how does He take away our sin? how did His death defeat the powers of darkness?)
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Re: What is the Good News?
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quote: Matthew 4:23 Jesus went throughout Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the good news of the kingdom, and healing every disease and sickness among the people.
Matthew 5-7 is a rich and nourishing meal! quote: John 53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him. 57Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever." 59He said this while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum. Many Disciples Desert Jesus 60On hearing it, many of his disciples said, "This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?"
61Aware that his disciples were grumbling about this, Jesus said to them, "Does this offend you? 62What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before! 63The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.
quote: Luke 4 17The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written: 18"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed, 19to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."[e]
20Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him, 21and he began by saying to them, "Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing."
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Re: What is the Good News?
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I believe Jesus earned the right to own our sin and second death when He lived and died the perfect substitutionary life and death. For reasons that are not perfectly clear, Jesus has the right and authority to forgive our confessed and forsaken sins (and the sins we commit ignorantly and innocently) and to empower us to “go, and sin no more.”
He implants within us, the moment we’re born again, the mind of the new man. And, so long as we are abiding in Jesus and partaking of His divine nature, the Holy Spirit dwells within us, seated supremely upon the throne of our soul temple, and empowers us to develop our new man traits of character, to mature in the fruits of the Spirit. By beholding Christ, we become Christlike.
2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, [even] as by the Spirit of the Lord.
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Re: What is the Good News?
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Mountain Dude Are we to all achieve the same "level of perfection" here on Earth? And actually not sin?
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Re: What is the Good News?
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Well, Beach Dude, those are good questions. I think it is helpful to remember that moral perfection is a gift we receive the moment we're born again - not something we achieve after years of trying real hard not to sin.
Born again believers begin perfect (i.e., whole) and, like Jesus, they become perfect (i.e., mature) as they grow in grace. We begin with a clean slate (perfect) when we're born again, and as we grow and mature be become more and more perfect (mature).
Will everyone reach the same "level of perfection", or maturity, in this lifetime? No, of course not. Not even eternity is long enough to exhaust our potential to become more perfect, more mature, to become more like Jesus. The difference, though, isn't measured in sin. Rather, the difference between one stage of perfection and another is maturity.
Can we actually cease sinning? Why not? According to the promises of God we do not and cannot sin. That is, while we are walking in the Spirit and mind of the new man, while we are abiding in Jesus and partaking of the divine nature, we will not, do not, and cannot commit a known sin. That's good news, eh?
Do you see what I mean?
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Re: What is the Good News?
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The good news is about Christ. A man who claimed to be the Son of God, said He would die, and be resurrected. These events happened. Our current situation with the steady decline and corruption in the world are prophetic words that are being fulfilled that Christ said would happen. So with all the bad things happening He promised us He would come again and take us to be with Him. Thats the good news, and one must be born again. Its actually very simple. God Bless, Will
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Re: What is the Good News?
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All of the answers I've seen so far seem to be centered on us. Is the Good News only about us? That is, is all that matters is that good things happen to us?
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Re: What is the Good News?
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Good things can vary depending on your perspective. The Good News includes us, but is also about the sacrifice that the Son of God made to come and save us. It was by His shed blood that their is a remission of sins, and we are redeemed by His blood. The gift of everlasting life is for free, and we can live forever with God. To me thats Great News! God Bless, Will
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Re: What is the Good News?
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I agree Will this is good news, but it still seems centered on us. Is there any Good News about God involved? What is the Good News about God?
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Re: What is the Good News?
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I would venture to say that the good news about God is that He is love. He so loved theworld that He gave His only begotten Son. What do you think? God Bless, Will
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Re: What is the Good News?
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I agree with you Will. The Good News about God is that He is love.
That of itself might be a bit vague. In order that we might clearly understand what love is, God gave His law. The law teaches us how to love God, and how to love man.
As great as the law was, it wasn't enough. In order that we might clearly see what God is like, God must make Himself visible and familar to our eyes. This is what God did in Jesus Christ, who was God in human flesh.
Thus the Good News is that Jesus Christ is God, or God is Jesus Christ (however you want to put is).
The Good News is when we've seen Jesus, we've seen the Father.
What do you think?
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Re: What is the Good News?
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Is the good news about good things happening to us? Well, the perspective of what good things are change when a person becomes filled with the Holy Spirit. quote: 2 Corinthians 11 24Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one. 25Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; 26In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; 27In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness. 28Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches. 29Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not? 30If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities. 31The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.
quote: Philippians 3 7But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. 8Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, 9And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: 10That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
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Re: What is the Good News?
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Tom, we are the theater of the universe, the focus of heaven. The sinles beings are watching, with intense interest, to see how the life and death of Jesus will affect sinful human beings.
"Jesus did not count heaven a place to be desired while we were lost." (DA 416) "The honor of God, the honor of Christ, is involved in the perfection of the character of His people." (DA 671)
SD 242 The fallen world is the battle-field for the greatest conflict the heavenly universe and earthly powers have ever witnessed. It was appointed as the theater on which would be fought out the grand struggle between good and evil, between heaven and hell. Every human being acts a part in this conflict. No one can stand on neutral ground. Men must either accept or reject the world's Redeemer. All are witnesses, either for or against Christ. Christ calls upon those who stand under His banner to engage in the conflict with Him as faithful soldiers, that they may inherit the crown of life. They have been adopted as sons and daughters of God. Christ has left them His assured promise that great will be the reward in the kingdom of heaven of those who partake of His humiliation and suffering for the truth's sake. {SD 242.3}
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Re: What is the Good News?
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God is not who Satan has made Him out to be.
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Re: What is the Good News?
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The Good News is primarily about God. It is, as Windsor pointed out, that God is not how Satan has made Him out to be. Instead, God is like Jesus -- exactly like Jesus, in fact.
Christ in His humanity was the full and complete revelation of God.
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Re: What is the Good News?
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The evidence that God is good can be seen in what Jesus has done for us on the cross, and in what He is doing for us now. If the life and death of Jesus did not yield the fruit of perfect people, saved by grace, then there would be no evidence that God is good.
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Re: What is the Good News?
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Is the evidence that God is good seen in the life of Christ? In His acts of mercy, healing etc.?
Is it true that Christ provided a full and complete revelation of God's character?
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Re: What is the Good News?
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Satan can imitate Christ. He will personate the second coming of Jesus and deceive, if possible, even the very elect. Satan appears as an angel of light. He blesses and heals and enlightens. But the fruit of believing in his counterfeit is unrest.
GC 532 But what did Adam, after his sin, find to be the meaning of the words, "In the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die"? Did he find them to mean, as Satan had led him to believe, that he was to be ushered into a more exalted state of existence? Then indeed there was great good to be gained by transgression, and Satan was proved to be a benefactor of the race. But Adam did not find this to be the meaning of the divine sentence. {GC 532.2}
GC 552 He has power to bring before men the appearance of their departed friends. The counterfeit is perfect; the familiar look, the words, the tone, are reproduced with marvelous distinctness. Many are comforted with the assurance that their loved ones are enjoying the bliss of heaven, and without suspicion of danger, they give ear "to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils." {GC 552.1}
GC 589 Through spiritualism, Satan appears as a benefactor of the race, healing the diseases of the people, and professing to present a new and more exalted system of religious faith; but at the same time he works as a destroyer. {GC 589.1}
The evidence that Jesus is not an imposter, is not an impotent god, is seen in the changed lives of those who love and serve Him. "Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God." (Isa 43:12)
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Re: What is the Good News?
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quote: The evidence that Jesus is not an imposter, is not an impotent god, is seen in the changed lives of those who love and serve Him. "Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God."
And so we, that are so changed have a wonderful living story to tell; the wonderful love of God and his glory which lighted our eyes. Our heavenly father cares for you and me and that is wonderful news. He is not out to find fault, but to heal and make whole. Thus he saves from the wretched righteousness of sin which kills and makes us children of the highest. What wonderful news for us, that God is not what Satan painted him to be!
Certainly the truth about God is such good news; it sets us free from the law of sin and death. So the good news is the truth about God, but that truth sets us free from the fear which sin brought in, so that we may come to God and be made whole. This truth was first revealed to us in Christ.
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Re: What is the Good News?
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