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WHAT MUSIC CAN DO TO YOU. #33756
12/11/00 12:29 PM
12/11/00 12:29 PM
Gerry Buck  Offline OP
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Benton Harbor, Mi.
This was sent to me by a friend of mine on the web.
He happens to be with the Michigan conference.

MICE KNOW WHAT'S NICE

by Michael O'Neill

A subject that is of particular concern to me, and one that I believe is discriminating against the Christian walk of our youth is the subject of Christian rock. A recent article came across my desk that I thought would be profitable to share with [my] readers:

"A newspaper article on "mice" in Lynchburg's News and Advance, July 17, 1997, C3, caught my attention. It was a story about the results of an experiment by a 16-year old Suffolk, Virginia high school student, David Merrill that proved that hard rock music is bad for the brain.

"Young David bought 72 male lab mice, a stopwatch, a 5 x 3-foot maze, and obtained some CD's. The 16-year-old tested the mice and found that on average it took 10 minutes for them to find their way through the maze.

He divided the mice into three groups of 24 mice each; a control group, a hard-rocked group, and a classical group. The mice were conditioned by the identical feedings and 12 hours of light each day. Then, the group
chosen to listen to hard rock and classical music were exposed to their selected music for 10 hours a day.

"After three weeks of hard rock music, the hard-rocked mice took 30 minutes to go through the maze. David says that it shows that hard rock has a negative effect. The control group that had not been subjected to
music was sent through the maze without music three times a week for three weeks.

With this practice, they were able to cut 5 minutes from their original measured time. Mice that listened to Mozart knocked about 8 1/2 minutes off their time. The hard-rocked mice took 20 minutes longer. David said that the project had to be cut short because the hard-rock mice killed each other.

"Some time later I called young David to discuss his experiment. The youngster talked like a seasoned scientist when discussing his
findings.

He was enthusiastic that I had read the article and he expressed disappointment that no one else had called. It was his opinion that the behaviour of his mice explained a great deal of what is happening to our society today. I had to agree with him.

"Media-promoted-rock is scrambling the brains of our youngsters. I did to say this to him, but it is my considered opinion that media-sponsored hard rock music is no accident.

THE MOZART EFFECT

"A few months later the Executive Director of the Richmond Symphony, Michele T. Waiter, sent a letter to the paper extolling the benefits of classical music (News and Advance, F5, Dec. 7, 1997). According to Ms.
Waiter, recent studies show that listening to classical music and/or getting music training makes children smarter. Students with musical training out perform others on the Scholastic Assessment Test. According to the College Entrance Examination Board, test results have shown that students who studied music at least four years scored 59 points higher than others on the verbal and 44 points higher on math. The research done by Frances Rauscher and Gordon Shaw on "The Mozart Effect" shows that exposure to classical music even for short periods has a beneficial effect on intelligence. A 1993 study demonstrated that students who listened to 10 minutes of Mozart's piano Sonata K 448 scored higher on IQ tests than students who heard silence or listened to relaxation tapes.

"The American Demographics magazine states that about 2/3rds of the graduate students in America like classical music. 57% of those who have attained only a high school diploma say country music is their favourite.

The disputed issue with researchers is whether smart people produce classical music or classical music produces smart people. No one knows why, but it appears that classical music produces smart people. The American Demographics magazine predicts that rock will become America's dominant music form. They state that the reason is that MTV and other forms of mass marketing are exposing more young people to rock than ever before.

TRY MOZART

"An article in USA Weekend, Sept. 5-7, 1997, p. 25, states that a half-hour of classics equals 10 mg. of Valium. The article relates that continuing studies on critical care patients at Baltimore's St. Agnes Hospital show that Bach, Debussy, Haydn or Mozart can substitute for sedatives.

Experiments last year revealed that students with musical experience exceeded national average SAT scores by 51 points on verbal and 39 on math.

Studies by psychologist George Lozanov show that the easy pace of Vivaldi helps people to memorise poetry and spell words. Mozart inspires predictability and safety which fuels productivity."

I would like to add that if this is the result of classical music, it would be similar for the beautiful hymns that we are blessed to have. There are many arguments and excuses for Christian rock, but remember that the mice know what's nice.

-- Michael O'Neill -- *
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Thank you Elder Babienco, Mi. Conf. of SDA

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What is popular is not always right.
What is right is not always popular.

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Hi Gerry, and thank you for the above which I reformatted for you.

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In His Love, Mercy & Grace

Daryl

[This message has been edited by Daryl Fawcett (edited December 11, 2000).]


Re: WHAT MUSIC CAN DO TO YOU. #33757
12/11/00 05:53 PM
12/11/00 05:53 PM
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Linda Sutton  Offline
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Thanks Gerry. I had read somewhere about the mice experiment, but not as much as you have put here. Did you know that studies done with plants shows that they don't like rock music either? I'll have to track down the info, but it seems that humans are the only ones who see nothing wrong with "killer" music.

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Re: WHAT MUSIC CAN DO TO YOU. #33758
12/11/00 07:42 PM
12/11/00 07:42 PM
Gerry Buck  Offline OP
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Benton Harbor, Mi.
Just rec'd another e-mail from Pastor Bruce, a lady wrote in about the experiment with plants.
It killed them.
Says a lot about some of the musical choices, doesn't it?
Wonder if they used 'christian rock'? :Þ

When you find the info on plants and rock, would you post it here, please?
Thanks.
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What is popular is not always right.
What is right is not always popular.

[This message has been edited by Gerry Buck (edited December 12, 2000).]


Re: WHAT MUSIC CAN DO TO YOU. #33759
12/18/00 04:19 AM
12/18/00 04:19 AM
Daryl  Online Canadian

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I created a duplicate of this topic in the SDA Church Issues forum on account of a concern I posted there, however, I want this topic to continue as an educational topic in this forum also.

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than to receive. (Acts 20:35)

Daryl

[This message has been edited by Daryl Fawcett (edited December 17, 2000).]


Re: WHAT MUSIC CAN DO TO YOU. #33760
12/19/00 08:18 AM
12/19/00 08:18 AM
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Would this counsel apply to those who have a desire to use their skill in rock, and other forms of popular music to attract unbelievers to our message?

“In their efforts to reach the people, the Lord’s messengers are not to follow the ways of the world. In the meetings that are held, they are not to depend upon worldy singers and theatrical display to awaken an interest.

How can those who have no interest in the Word of God, who have never read His Word with a sincere desire to understand it’s Truths, be expected to sing with the Spirit and the understanding?

How can their hearts be in harmony with the words of sacred song?

How can the heavenly choir join in music that is only a form?” (9T 143).

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Soul winning is soul loving.
see 1 Thes.5:14-15).

Your brother in Christ

David T. Battler


Re: WHAT MUSIC CAN DO TO YOU. #33761
12/20/00 02:13 PM
12/20/00 02:13 PM
Gerry Buck  Offline OP
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Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 1,859
Benton Harbor, Mi.
We are also told not to mix the things of God with the things of Baal.
Rock is not nor can it be considered a tool of God.
After all I have read and all I have heard, I am more convinced than ever that we absolutely should not under any circumstances use the theatrics that others do to reach the unchurched.
For over 1800 years they have been reached with the simple truth of the gospel, no theatrics, no worldly music and no drama.

God doesn't need the devils tools to save.
It makes me wonder who we serve when we rely on worldly ideas to promulgate the gospel, contrary to plain scripture directives not to mix the things [message] of God with the things of Baal[ rock music].



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