My daughter, girl, is having marriage in one month and she wants this rock music to be played at the wedding. She tells it is not rock, but the style and chordant is hard to listen to. I tell her that in church, this is the house of God, and this music is inappropriate.

What kind of music? Let me tell you it has loud piano and a guitar and a man with long hair who will sing. The song is a love song that the heritage singers sang. The mother of the girl, my separated wife, allowed my daughter to listen to this heritage singers music and I am very upset for this. Now she wants me to pay for a weding where this music will be displayed. I am only happy that a drummer she asked not for.

I am Seventh-day Adventist for a long time, and it is sad that this happened. It is different now, the music is no longer of quality but instead it is poor with shouting and banging. Sometime I think it is better to pray by myself than go to churches where this terrible thing happens.

I am sorry for my english is not very good. Is there a german (deutsch) web siet?

Thank for your help.

Helmut Eichman

She is getting married and will video tape the wedding. She is planning on children and possibly daughters. They will see and hear the video tapes of the wedding.

By the time she has daughters her taste in music will have changed but the rock music at a wedding will still be on the video tapes to embarass her and work against her values in raising her future sons and daughters.

She will in the future be pleased at the effect upon her children if the video tapes only play sacred music for her wedding in Church.

Weddings are sacred services, they are covered by the seventh commandment of the Ten Commandments just like Sabbath is covered by the fourth Commandment. If she is careless now disrespects God in His own house now she will work against her efforts to raise her children later and then can not un-do the video.

God is the One that accounts a man and woman married, and it is His house. If she does not have enough respect for God whom she can not see, how will she respect and look up to her husband whom she can see. Where is her respect for you ? That respect or lack of respect she will rub off onto her children.

They will treat her, like she respects God, You, her husband. Because they will follow her example and life.

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Edward F Sutton

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My daughter has never been allowed beat music, and I do not see why we should listen to it at a wedding, even if it was "sacred."

I wanted to have Ave Maria sung as it is beautiful music, but she insisted on this evil music. I do not understand why these children do this today, and I will put a stop to it as long as I can.

Helmut

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Daryl

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The song my daughter wants to be sung is Love Will Be Our Home. I looked the song up on the Internet and it was also sung by Sandi Patti, who does Christian rock music.

Helmut

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Originally posted by Helmut Eichman:
The song my daughter wants to be sung is Love Will Be Our Home. I looked the song up on the Internet and it was also sung by Sandi Patti, who does Christian rock music.

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Wouldn't you rather have your daughter happy than to stir up trouble by making a big deal out of one song that will last maybe 3 minutes? IAC, if you really object that much, you can stick your fingers in your ears till it's finished.

BTW, I've never heard of anyone having to come to the US just to get a divorce. There are quite a few other places where they are more easily obtained than here. Did you wife more to the US with your daughter? A assume she is marrying an American?

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Welcome to the US, I hope you like your stay.

It has been mentioned that you should not stir up trouble by resisting this song being played at the wedding.

Maybe you could talk about it a bit with your daughter; and see what kinds of compromises, or alternatives, you can come up with together, (without giving up any principles?)

Talking about it politely, always helps. Allow her to express her feelings on the matter without condemning her; and ask her to do the same for you:

Hebrews 13:16 "But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased."

Galatians 6:7 "...For whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

Galatians 6:9 "And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not."

We missed you!

I hope this means that you are back to actively moderating again.

If you haven't already done so, you have some catching up to do in the moderators forums.

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Daryl

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Originally posted by Helmut Eichman:
I thought the Ave Maria would be okay it is sung in latin. Maybe Panis Angelicus or the Lord's Prayer would be better.

The song my daughter wants to be sung is Love Will Be Our Home. I looked the song up on the Internet and it was also sung by Sandi Patti, who does Christian rock music.

Helmut

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Music is a taste issue, not a salvation issue. And those who want to make it a salvation issue are far more in danger then those who want to listen to a type of music.

Yes, I agree certain music is not fitting for the church to play, Ellen white does talk about the issue of drums. I suggest if the pastor of the Church and the Church board and all the elders in their wisdom see no problem with the music, let it be played. Listen, a wedding is (hopefully) a once in a life time event and a very special time, do you really want such a issue between you and your daughter for life?

Perhaps she needs growth to come to a higher level of understanding of music. That may come in time. Be happy she is in the church and loves you. Many Parents weep every night just to have your problems.

As for Ave Maria!!! I get sick everytime i here it played in an Adventist church ( it happen More then you imagine). This is a Catholic Hymn to Mary, who we know is dead. Hence this song is Spiritualism. Having this song played at your daughter's wedding would be on worse then having Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, or Black Sabbath (60's and 70's rock group known for endorsing Satanic teachings) played.

Allow a little grace and Let your Child have time to grow in to more truth and knowledge.

PB

Music is the only form of communication that makes it into our consciousness without first passing through the frontal lobe of the brain, where the will is centered. So music can "get in our minds" without any conscious thought on our behalf. Satan knows this, as the former leader of the heavenly choirs. That's why it's really dangerous to de-emphasize the importance of music, and the proper type of music, in the life of the Christian.

Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi has done a good study on the subject of music entitled "The Christian & Rock Music" ( http://www.biblicalperspectives.com/rockbook/index.html ), where he draws lessons from the musical instruction given to the Israelites for the ancient temple services. Certain types of music and instruments were prescribed, and other types of music and instruments were not included for sacred services.

So consider it: would the God Who incinerated Nadab and Abihu for offering strange fire (Lev. 10:1-2) tolerate a heathen style of music to be played in the temple, in worship services? The answer is, obviously, an emphatic "NO". Why, then, should we tolerate it, even approve of it, for use in worship services now?

"When turned to good account, music is a blessing; but it is often made one of Satan's most attractive agencies to ensnare souls. When abused, it leads the unconsecrated to pride, vanity, and folly. When allowed to take the place of devotion and prayer, it is a terrible curse. Young persons assemble to sing, and, although professed Christians, frequently dishonor God and their faith by their frivolous conversation and their choice of music. Sacred music is not congenial to their taste. I was directed to the plain teachings of God's word, which have been passed by unnoticed. In the judgment all these words of inspiration will condemn those who have not heeded them." -- Testimonies, vol. 1, p. 506.

Here we have poor choice of music directly associated with judgment and condemnation. Music a salvation issue? Most definitely.

Furthermore, putting a rock beat with Christian lyrics and calling it sacred music, is akin to Roman Emperor Constantine marching his pagan troops through the river ford and calling them baptized. As we say here in the South, "that dog won't hunt".

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This is one of the weirdest threads I've ever read. I wonder how it turned out.

PB

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"Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." -- 1 Corinthians 10:11,12.

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