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Re: Still think beef is "Bible clean" food? #38502
06/02/05 02:16 AM
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"Vitamin" D3 may come from swine's flesh?

Is there any way of knowing whether it does or whether it doesn't?

Re: Still think beef is "Bible clean" food? #38503
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The best way is to buy the organic milk! It will tell you exactly what it contains.

Re: Still think beef is "Bible clean" food? #38504
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Ah...but maybe the best-er way is giving up the moo-juice altogether! Dark green leafy veggies, sunshine and home made soy milk will take care of any D vitamins lacking.
Soy milk from a factory is lousy, and it's real easy at home.

Re: Still think beef is "Bible clean" food? #38505
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Better and convient are two different things however. Even more so, better and pleasing are poles apart.

Re: Still think beef is "Bible clean" food? #38506
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I can just picture Dave's face when he was posting about soy milk! [Frown] Rice milk is another good alternative, since some people have problems with soy products and rice is considered an all round non-allergenic product. I always thought commercial soy milk used to taste rather like plastic overshoes. It has improved quite a bit in recent years. It's a hard change for a lot of people to make though.

Re: Still think beef is "Bible clean" food? #38507
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I've never eaten plastic overshoes, but think I know what you mean [Smile]

Soymilk is better-tasting these days. I'd have a hard time getting along without it.

Re: Still think beef is "Bible clean" food? #38508
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Quote: posted by Daryl Fawcett
"Vitamin" D3 may come from swine's flesh?

Is there any way of knowing whether it does or whether it doesn't?



I’ve read that Vitamin D3 can also come from fish oil. Or, there’s always sunlight.

Jeff
Re: Still think beef is "Bible clean" food? #38509
06/04/05 02:33 PM
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I love some of the commercial soy milks (Silk is one brand name here in the states) that you can buy at any grocery store, however I'm not too sure they are really that good for you. They are quite high in sugar and fat. Health food, I think not. Yummy though.

Redfog

Re: Still think beef is "Bible clean" food? #38510
06/04/05 08:24 PM
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I am interested in this 3D information in milk. Does anyone know if it comes from swine or fish?

I don't care if there is oil and sugar in my soymilk, it seems better than this 3D stuff...oh my, I can remember the Loma Linda's Soyagen--talk about lots of oil and sugar!!!

I think Phil's idea of making your own soymilk is best--that way you know what is in the milk. Actually there are LOTS of different "milks" on the market from rice to potato milk...we live close by a healthfood store and I'd say there at least 20 to 30 different milks there, from carob milk to vanilla flavored milk...

I belong to a vegan group of ladies who chat on a board. We are all vegan and I am the only SDA on this board! So Redfog was right in that there are many out in the world who are vegetarian or vegan who do not do it for religious reasons but for health reasons.

Re: Still think beef is "Bible clean" food? #38511
06/04/05 08:39 PM
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I'm not sure I should say this or not but here goes (excuse me if I've posted this before!)

I was convicted at age 15 to become a vegetarian. I was raised on "clean" (certainly not kosher) meat in an SDA home. I did not have an easy time of it because I liked certain meats: chicken/turkey/beef bacon and fish.

What a struggle I had. I would be grocery shopping when hungry (not a good idea) and buy some kind of meat. Then the Holy Spirit would start in on me and after I got home, I can remember taking the meat and throwing it in the large trash bin outside.

One day again when grocery shopping I was very tempted to buy some meat. All of a sudden I was strongly impressed that it was TIME to STOP for good. I knew the Lord was speaking to my heart and I was impressed that if I bought it and ate it, I would be committing the unpardonable sin. I did not buy it and haven't since.

I am not saying that those who eat meat are committing the unpardonable sin. But for ME it would have been a SIN for me to go ahead and buy it and eat it. This is an experience that I went through that I do not hold that others must do the same thing.

But when I read about Judas, how his decision was made when he left the upper room, Sister White says he went to the "point of no return" and this is why he hanged himself. He knew it was too late. This is kind of where I was--at a fork in the road and I had to make a decision. Basically it was whether I would follow the "lust of the flesh (which was really what it was!) or would I follow and give up ALL for Jesus.

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