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What Are Some of the Things That Muslims Believe? #39016
08/22/04 04:05 PM
08/22/04 04:05 PM
Daryl  Online Canadian
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As requested I have created a new topic on some of the things that Muslims believe where we can look at their beliefs in relation to Christian beliefs, etc.

A question asked by Cedric in the JW topic relative to this newly created topic is: How does one reconcile the Christian understanding of One God (Jehovah) with the Muslim understanding of One God (Allah)?

Re: What Are Some of the Things That Muslims Believe? #39017
08/22/04 11:44 PM
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To put it another way we could say Are they the same God?

Re: What Are Some of the Things That Muslims Believe? #39018
08/23/04 12:22 AM
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Are they the same God?

I think we need to know more about their understanding of who the One God (Allah) is in comparision to our understanding of who the One God (Jehovah) is before we can correctly answer that question.

The Bible gives God many names all referring to the One God (Jehovah), however, I don't recall the One God (Jehovah) also being referred to as Allah in the Bible.

Re: What Are Some of the Things That Muslims Believe? #39019
08/23/04 01:03 AM
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Last week i just finished a 8 month study of this very subject: "Is Allah and God the same"?

Anyone interested in the results of the study can see it here:
Qur'an Bible Comparison

Re: What Are Some of the Things That Muslims Believe? #39020
08/23/04 01:50 PM
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Cedric,

The link danielw provided at a quick glance seems to be a good link, therefore, I think your question(s) will probably be answered there.

Feel free to discuss your findings there in this topic as it relates to this topic. As time permits, I will try and do the same thing.

I also invite danielw to discuss it here as well as it relates to this topic.

Re: What Are Some of the Things That Muslims Believe? #39021
08/24/04 03:45 AM
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Another place we could look for Muslim beliefs and how they relate to Christian beliefs is in the book Studying Together by Mark Finley. It lists the beliefs we have in common as well as differing beliefs. It suggests ways to approach Muslims and how to work up to a Bible study with them.

Re: What Are Some of the Things That Muslims Believe? #39022
08/25/04 06:20 AM
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Daryl, I came here to change my password as requested. My this place seems quite interesting.

I heard that Jesus and Allah are the same God. Where the trouble arises is in Mohammed. He was a false prophet and was responsible for all the hatred against Jews and Christians. Because of his writings in the Koran extreme hatred is instilled in many Muslim's minds. They believe that eventually they must kill all Jews and Christians or get them to convert to Islam. They do not require sincerity in this conversion process - because if they say they are Muslim and will follow Islam - then all of their children will be raised Muslim. And then the entire world will be Muslim.

The strange thing pointed out by Sam Bacchiocchi is that they worship the Virgin Mary, but not Jesus. There are many Marian apparitions happening world wide. This apparition can hear and respond to the audience, and is asking to be declared co-redemptrix with Jesus. This is directly in contradiction with the Bible. Many people are urging the Pope to officially declair Mary as Co-redemptrix. When this happens I believe that the end of the world will be extremely close. So God will not influence the Pope to do this until the time is ripe for the infamous Sunday laws. (Forget about "blue laws" - they have nothing to do with the real Sunday law.)

Bacchiocchi pointed out that Mary could well be the unifying force to bring about world unity. Its strange that Mary is in the Koran and also in Eastern religions like Buddhism and other eastern religions and Native Americans with their largely new age beliefs.

And here we SDAs always wondered how religions like Islam could ever be united so the world will have one religion and political rule for the Beast of Revelation to rule over - as the Bible says.
--Ðøug  - 2004.8.24.23.22.11 PT

Re: What Are Some of the Things That Muslims Believe? #39023
08/25/04 12:45 PM
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Actually Jews and Christians are the two groups that are exempt from the convert or die instructions. Mohamed recognized them as people of the book. Jews and Christians could maintain their beliefs but had to pay extra taxes and couldn't prosylatize muslims.

I agree that it is spiritualism, virgin mary, etc. that will bring muslims into endtime Babylon.

Pastor Mike

Re: What Are Some of the Things That Muslims Believe? #39024
08/26/04 03:02 AM
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I don't think we can rightly say that Jesus and Allah are the same God....

Re: What Are Some of the Things That Muslims Believe? #39025
09/06/04 03:32 AM
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John, your three dots indicate that perhaps you have more to say on this topic. I would like to hear it, since to just say "Uh, I don't think they're the same." offers no reasons for the thinking process.

I have to agree with Daryl on this topic in that unless we know the characteristics of both entities, we are probably not in a position to answer that question.

And is that even the first question we should be asking?

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