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Re: What Is A Cult?
#39113
02/15/05 11:13 PM
02/15/05 11:13 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Larry Kirkpatrick: We can, indeed, we must, be willing to sustain Heaven's declaration of what is and is not Babylon. I am comfortable in calling a spade a spade. I have no trouble identifying the UPC or the Catholic Church to be cults.
LK, I hope you don’t think I am trying to be contentious, because that’s not my purpose. What definition of “cult” are you applying? Perhaps I can agree.
If, by cult, you mean in the traditional sense, more synonymous with sect—a small religious group that has branched off of a larger established religion—I agree. If, by cult, you mean the same as defined by Walter Martin’s and other’s invention, I’d rather not use that term for that purpose. Not only do I disagree with that use for the reasons I’ve stated previously, but also it seems that to use the term to apply to a group like the UPC, within that modified definition, I’d be acknowledging Evangelical’s justification and authority to apply the same term to us.
I agree with the authority to speak of Babylon, but that’s not the same thing.
Jeff [ February 15, 2005, 08:45 PM: Message edited by: Jeff ]
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Re: What Is A Cult?
#39114
02/16/05 05:04 PM
02/16/05 05:04 PM
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There is actually a book in a publically and widely known Christian Bookstore here in Fredericton that actually labels the UPC as a cult.
They are compared with the JWs who are also listed there. The Mormons are also listed there.
Another interesting fact though is that I do not remember them listing the SDA Church as a cult in that book. I don't remember seeing the Roman Catholic Church being listed there either.
The next time I am there I will check out that book again to make sure my memory is serving me correctly.
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Re: What Is A Cult?
#39115
02/19/05 07:03 AM
02/19/05 07:03 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Daryl Fawcett: …Another interesting fact though is that I do not remember them listing the SDA Church as a cult in that book. I don't remember seeing the Roman Catholic Church being listed there either.
Daryl, I’ve also seen the UPC labeled as a cult on several websites. Of course, JWs and Mormons are there as well. I read somewhere that the RCC is not typically thought of as a cult because of the portion they take up in the overall Christian pie. It seems that even if a particular doctrine is considered “wrong”, they are not a cult if the doctrine is accepted by a large number of Christians, no matter how unscriptural it is.
Those groups that do consider the Seventh Day Adventist Church a cult do so because our doctrines that they believe are wrong are not accepted by many other Christians. Some of the doctrines that people find so “cultish” are one’s like the Investigative Judgment, that Michael refers to Jesus, and that Satan is the “scapegoat”. Perhaps if as many Christians believed that Satan is the “scapegoat” as believe that Mary intercedes on behalf of man, we’d not be considered a cult either!
Jeff
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Re: What Is A Cult?
#39116
02/19/05 10:27 PM
02/19/05 10:27 PM
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In many parts of the world, the members of a majority faith group usually refer to other religious groups (usually minority faith groups)as cults. In the Philippines, for example, where over 80 percent of the people are Roman Catholics, it is a common practice for these people (RCs) - priests and lay people - to label and view non-Catholic Christian groups like Evangelicals, Baptists, Presbyterians, Pentecostals and countless Born-Again groups and Adventists not merely as "separated brothers and sisters in Christ" but as cults and sects.
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