Ed,

It always seems if the writings of EW are not viewed in the exact same way as those that apply every word she ever uttered in exactly the way stated they somehow become just a little less than those that do. A disapointment or not living up to the truth.

>Gregory in this Harry Potter thread you >are the one voicing sentiments that by >their tone cast doubt upon the honesty of >EGW.

Where?

> The aspersions you are creating seems >to run like this. ?Did she really practice >what she preached, or did she say one >thing and do another on the side ??

Unless she was a perfect human being I would be willing to bet she did that on occasion. Just as you, myself or anyone else.

>A. If she sinned it is up to God to decide >to record those sins and publish them.

You choice of the word "if' surprises me.
There is no "if'. She did.
You have determined what may have been a sin according to what you believe.


>B. If she sinned it is no excuse to publish >it and paint it as justification for someone >else?s choices.

Again, no "if". Whatever her sins there is nothing here to take as justification, just seeing it differently than you.
When I read our sons should be scarecly sane and have a fevered imagination because they read fiction, I know that is not true. Then I have to believe she was wrong or maybe look just a little deeper


>C. Publishing her sins are they not put in >a similar light as Genesis 9:20-27 ? Are >you not uncovering the nakedness of the >spiritual mother of the SDA faith ?


Maybe I have taken this the wrong way
but if a RC were to say that to me, I would assume they were speaking either of Mary or the pope.

EW was a mortal, flawed, sinful human being as all humans are. If not, then she certainy belongs in heaven with Christ as he is the only one to practise without fail what he preached at all times.

Ed said:

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"Gregory in this Harry Potter thread you are the one voicing sentiments that by their tone cast doubt upon the honesty of EGW. The aspersions you are creating seems to run like this. “Did she really practice what she preached, or did she say one thing and do another on the side ?”
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I am astounded that anyone could get this message from my post!

I do not think that honesty is involved. Ellen White was qhite open about her life and work. She clearly relates the struggles that she with diet, and we know that she eat foods she had writen against for some time after she wrote against them.

She publicly wore a necklace, and was photographed wearing one after she wrote against jewelry. The White Estate acknowledges that in later years they "airbrushed" that necklace out of some well ppublished photos of her. Her honesty is not at stake.

Whatever, EGW did, it was open, and well known by people who livedin her time.

Ed, you have gone well beyond anything I have said.

My personal position on fiction and EGW is:

1) EGW condemed much of what passedfor fiction, and would do so today.

2) She ws selective and accepted a few works of fiction that taught spiritual truths.

3) This is what she practiced. It was this type that she read to her children. We konwwhat she did, as she left the records. She personally made what we now call scrapbook stories.

Some, and I do not refer to anyone, make her to be a god, and much more than she was. We have nothing to fear from the truth, for Godis a God of truth.

Hello all,

Due to the fact that this topic seems to have changed course and is no longer about Endtime Events I have closed it and moved a copy to SDA Church Concerns. Please feel free to continue with the dicussion there.

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