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Who is a Respector of Antichrist??? #42891
01/07/06 05:30 AM
01/07/06 05:30 AM
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The_Lord_Is_One  Offline OP
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The post by razzoren inspired a thought in me. Part of the original quote posted by Walk_in_the_Light from the SOP made me ask a critical question. Here is the quote restated:

"Worldly policy is taking the place of true piety and wisdom that comes from above, and God will remove His prospering hand from the conference. Shall the ark of the covenant be removed from this people? Shall idols be smuggled in? Shall false principles and false precepts be brought into the sanctuary? Shall antichrist be respected? Shall the true doctrines and principles given us of God, which have made us what we are, be ignored?.... This is directly where the enemy, through blinded, unconsecrated men, is leading us." E. G. White, Manuscript 29, 1890.

So then, to the question of who it is that is a respector of antichrist, how shall we have safety in identifying who these false leaders are that have respected antichrist, and thereby brought in heresy and apostasy?

Ellen White stressed the present truth emphasis of the gospel and prophecies of John. This is key since it is John who identifies the spirit of antichrist. Ellen White defines the antichrist in the same terms, but gives further elaboration on the matter. Here are some more quotes that reveal much more of this power at work, even in the highest offices close to home:

Here God has worked out for us the proof of the class mentioned (antichristians). They have refused to acknowledge Christ as the Son of God, and they have no more reverence for the eternal Father than for His Son, Jesus Christ. They have neither the Son nor the Father. And like their great leader, the rebel chief, they are in rebellion against the law of God, and they despise the blood of Christ. {Con 92.3}

Writing to a helper in the gospel work, a woman of good repute and wide influence, he said: "Many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Godspeed: for he that biddeth him Godspeed is partaker of his evil deeds." {AA 554.2}
We are authorized to hold in the same estimation as did the beloved disciple those who claim to abide in Christ while living in transgression of God's law. There exist in these last days evils similar to those that threatened the prosperity of the early church; and the teachings of the apostle John on these points should be carefully heeded. "You must have charity," is the cry heard everywhere,
especially from those who profess sanctification. But true charity is too pure to cover an unconfessed sin. While we are to love the souls for whom Christ died, we are to make no compromise with evil. We are not to unite with the rebellious and call this charity. God requires His people in this age of the world to stand for the right as unflinchingly as did John in opposition to soul-destroying errors. {AA 554.3}

...The fallen denominational churches are Babylon. Babylon has been fostering poisonous doctrines, the wine of error. This wine of error is made up of false doctrines, such as the natural immortality of the soul, the eternal torment of the wicked, the denial of the pre-existence of Christ prior to His birth in Bethlehem, and advocating and exalting the first day of the week above God's holy, sanctified day. These and kindred errors are presented to the world by the various churches. . . .
Fallen angels upon earth form confederations with evil men. In this age antichrist will appear as the true Christ, and then the law of God will be fully made void in the nations of our world. Rebellion against God's holy law will be fully ripe. But the true leader of all this rebellion is Satan, clothed as an angel of light. Men will be deceived and will exalt him to the place of God, and deify him.--Review and Herald, Sept. 12, 1893.

When the papal bull reached Luther, he said: "I despise it, and resist it, as impious and false. . . . It is Christ himself who is condemned therein." "I glory in the prospect of suffering for the best of causes. Already I feel greater liberty; for I know now that the pope is antichrist, and that his throne is that of Satan himself." {GC88 141.2}

Has not the same process been repeated in nearly every church calling itself Protestant (speaking of the accepting of pagan doctrines and becoming a respector of antichrist)? As its founders, those who possessed the true spirit of reform, pass away, their descendants come forward and "new model the cause." While blindly clinging to the creed of their fathers and refusing to accept any truth in advance of what they saw, the children of the reformers depart widely from their example of humility, self-denial, and renunciation of the world. Thus "the first simplicity disappears." A worldly flood, flowing into the church, "carries with it its customs, practices, and idols." {GC88 385.1}

And Peter, describing the dangers to which the church was to be exposed in the last days, says that as there were false prophets who led Israel into sin, so there will be false teachers, "who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them. . . . And many shall follow their pernicious ways." 2 Peter 2:1, 2. Here the apostle has pointed out one of the marked characteristics of spiritualist teachers. They refuse to acknowledge Christ as the Son of God. Concerning such teachers the beloved John declares: "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father." 1 John 2:22, 23. Spiritualism, by denying Christ, denies both the Father and the Son, and the Bible pronounces it the manifestation of antichrist. {PP 686.1}

The soul that has had light in regard to the Lord's Sabbath, His memorial of creation, and to save himself from inconvenience and reproach has chosen to remain disloyal, has sold his Lord. He has dishonored the name of Christ, He has taken his stand with the armies of Antichrist; with them at the last great day, he will be found outside the city of God, not with the loyal, the true and righteous, in the heavenly kingdom. {3SM 401.4}

Re: Who is a Respector of Antichrist??? #42892
01/07/06 09:54 AM
01/07/06 09:54 AM
Will  Offline
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Praise God we all believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and died for our sins, and is alive today interceding on our behalf before the Father.
Have a Happy Sabbath

Re: Who is a Respector of Antichrist??? #42893
01/07/06 09:54 AM
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Dear the Lord is One:
Amen and again I say amen.
What is the doctrine of Christ. There are those (probably false teachers) who quote Matthew 28:19 and leave out verse 20. I believe that verse 20 refers to the doctrine of Christ i.e. that which Christ taught.
In regard to "the Lord is one", who did Christ proclaim is the "only true God"? Is it a "unity of three co-eternal persons"?

Re: Who is a Respector of Antichrist??? #42894
01/07/06 10:44 AM
01/07/06 10:44 AM
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Jesus said that this is life eternal that the might know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
Alot of texts seem interesting dont they. For example why did God call Jesus God? What was one of the reasons the Pharisees were going to stone Jesus, when He forgave sins? How is it that Jesus called Himself the IAM, and not the WE ARE, if His Father is greater than He? Is it Jesus alone? Can anyone explain this?
Who is the fullness of the Godhead bodily? Is this because God the Father is a spirit i.e. without a body? If so Why does Daniel record the Ancient of Days as sitting down and having white hair on his head?
Why did Jesus not consider it robbery to be equal to God?
Why would Peter call the Holy Spirit God?!
Have a Happy Sabbath.
Will

Re: Who is a Respector of Antichrist??? #42895
01/07/06 12:58 PM
01/07/06 12:58 PM
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The_Lord_Is_One  Offline OP
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr.Glenn:

In regard to "the Lord is one", who did Christ proclaim is the "only true God"? Is it a "unity of three co-eternal persons"?

[Praying]

I think we should all know the answer to this... It is obvious if the Word of God is a lamp unto thy feet and a light unto thy path... This is of extreme importance. What do you say Dr?

Re: Who is a Respector of Antichrist??? #42896
01/08/06 04:23 AM
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Dear the Lord is one:
One of my favorite authors says: "But God will have a people upon the earth to maintain the Bible, and the Bible only, as the standard of all doctrines, and the basis of all reforms. The opinion of learned men, the deductions of all science, the creeds or decisions of ecclesiastical councils, as numerous and discordant as the churches which they represent, the voice of the majority, -- not one or all of these should be regarded as evidence for or against any point of religious faith. Before accepting any doctrine or precept, we should demand a plain "Thus saith the Lord" in its support."
When this author joined the Seventh-day Adventist church she and all the pioneers believed this: "That the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, were given by inspiration of God, contain a full revelation of his will to man, and are the only infallible rule of faith and practice".
Since this author died this doctrine or precept has been changed to: "The Holy Scripture, Old and New Testaments, are the written Word of God, given by divine inspiration through holy men of God who spoke and wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. In this Word, God has committed to man the knowledge necessary for salvation. The Holy Scriptures are the infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the authoritative revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God's acts in history".
PLEASE NOTE THE PHRASE: "THE ONLY INFALLIBLE RULE OF FAITH AND PRACTICE" HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT.
As we know from the book of revelation that the man whose number is 666 is the antichrist. this man is the leader of a false religion. This false religion accepts the current teaching of the Seventh-day Adventist church in its statement regarding the Holy Scriptures because this statement does not contain the phrase: "the only infallible rule of faith and practice" and therefore does not exclude tradition and does not exculde the teachings of the living and dead popes and other religious leaders of the false religion called in the book of revelation by the name: "BABYLON, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS".
Since there is a plain "thus saith the Lord" that the only true God is the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, I accept this doctrine or precept. Since there is no "plain saith the Lord" that a "unity of three co-eternal persons" is the only true God, I must reject that doctrine or precept.

Re: Who is a Respector of Antichrist??? #42897
01/07/06 05:05 PM
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The_Lord_Is_One  Offline OP
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Oh! But Dr. Glenn, surely you cannot feel at ease worshipping with people who affirm that the tradition of popes, evolutionists, historical-critical scholars, pholosophers, platonists, creedalists, and many others who deny that Jesus is the Son of God and that He came in the flesh, are to have an equal influence on the definition of truth. This would be a deviation from Biblical faith would it not?

Re: Who is a Respector of Antichrist??? #42898
01/07/06 08:38 PM
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Dear the Lord is one:
In every church and denomination, including SDAs, there are those who hold to the tradition of popes, evolutionists, historical-critical scholars, philosophers, platonists, creedalists and many other who deny that Jesus is the Son of God and deny his pre-existence as the divine Son of God and deny that he came in the flesh. So, I am probably worshiping with these persons not knowing what they teach, but when I do know what they teach, I do not accept any doctrine or precept they teach unless there is a plain "thus saith the Lord" in its support.


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